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by Native
Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:46 am
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Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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THE FLOOD MYTH

We have a discussion here on this interesting issue:

http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view= ... gmp_814757
by Native
Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:45 am
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Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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@ Roncooper, Thanks for your reply and linking. Life-principle from the stars: akash ganga: In Hindu lore there is an interesting account of how the sacred river Ganga which has its origins in the Himalayan range, actually arose. In the Ramayana (I.25) the sage Vishvamitra explains that the river "r...
by Native
Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:57 pm
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Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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Hello Carmela,
Thanks for your thumbs up to my website. Can you please link me to your Quanta topic?
Regards Ivar
by Native
Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:25 am
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Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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Hello flangham,
Thanks for your post and Good Luck with further postings. I hope you´ll have som comments on the specific topic of "One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People", based on the Milky Way Mythology and Stories of Creation.
by Native
Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:16 pm
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Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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SMacArthur, Thanks for your interest and post, Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion#Etymology “Modern scholars such as Tom Harpur and Joseph Campbell favor the derivation from ligare "bind, connect", probably from a prefixed re-ligare, i.e. re (again) + ligare or "to reconnect”. AD: I a...
by Native
Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:30 am
Forum: Mythology and Religion
Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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Hello Roncooper, Thanks for your reply. I´ve listened to the video of Alan Watts and I agree so far that in our disconnectedness from nature we become isolated from the very creation itself and this is a great pity because it is via the natural vibrations of electromagnetic fields inside and outside...
by Native
Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:02 pm
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Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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So then you feel that these creations myths, the early ones which were later re-worked, were intuitive insights into the actual birth of the universe? AD 1 Perhaps. There's another path which I ventured down which compares the really old creation myths of northern Africa and abroad to what know in ...
by Native
Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:44 pm
Forum: Mythology and Religion
Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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I completely agree that "In the beginning" isn't even supposed to mean in the literal beginning, because, of course, according the same mythology there is no beginning for God or his dwelling. So what fixed beginning are we discussing then? That was a point that came up in a recent conversation abo...
by Native
Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:44 pm
Forum: Mythology and Religion
Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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Creation Story and The Milky Way

In Genesis the perspective is from looking out from the earth and describing a creation sequence. So I'm pretty sure that they meant that the earth and space were created in the beginning, and then God said "Let there be light" which fired up the milky way illumination, if we're correct about the f...
by Native
Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:20 pm
Forum: Mythology and Religion
Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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Hey Native, I don't know if you realize that I've been a member here for years or not. Now I confess that for a long time I neglected to realize that the mysterious light of the first day of creation - which is clearly not the sun - is probably the Milky Way. And in the context of older myths it's ...
by Native
Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:41 am
Forum: Mythology and Religion
Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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Dear captsunshine, Thanks for your very confirming reply indeed. Now: Would you like to ponder over if the supreme deities in the Hindu context can be connected to the Milky Way figures, i.e. the whole banded figure around the Earth; the southern hemisphere figure (the Underworld) and the northern h...
by Native
Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:24 pm
Forum: Mythology and Religion
Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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04. Basical Symbols of Creation

Basical Symbols of Creation 1. Most stories of Creation begin with nothing, but this is just a telling technique in order to describe how everything in cosmos is formed. 2. Then the stories start of and tell of how the 4 basic elements of water; fire; air and soil interact in the 5.th element of sp...
by Native
Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:19 pm
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Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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03. Interpreting Deity Myths

Deities Myth Example.

Analyzing the Babylonian Deity Attributes and their supposed connection to Planets.

(My remarks = AD)

Link and connecting links to Babylonian Astrology; planets and deities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian ... s_and_gods

Of the planets five were recognized planets: ”Jupiter, Venus, Saturn, Mercury and Mars to name them in the order in which they appear in the older cuneiform literature; in later texts Mercury and Saturn change places.

These five planets were identified with the gods of the Babylonian pantheon as follows:

Jupiter with Marduk,
Venus with the goddess Ishtar,
Saturn with Ninurta (Ninib),
Mercury with Nabu (Nebo),
Mars with Nergal.


AD: Strangely enough, the Earth itself is not directly mentioned here, but mythological it is often mentioned instead of the term of Primordial Soil, connected to the Story of Creation.

The movements of the Sun, Moon and five planets were regarded as representing the activity of the five gods in question, together with the moon-god Sin and the Sun-god Shamash, in preparing the occurrences on earth. If, therefore, one could correctly read and interpret the activity of these powers, one knew what the gods were aiming to bring about.

Babylonian Deities and qualities. (Are they Sun; Moon or Milky Way qualities?)

Analyzing Sin

1) Sin (Supposed Moon Deity)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_%28mythology%29 (Wiki=Moon-deity) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_deity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_deit ... ar_deities

Sin (Akkadian: Su'en, SÃn) or Nanna was the god of the moon in Mesopotamian mythology. Nanna is a Sumerian deity, the son of Enlil and Ninlil, and became identified with Semitic Sin. The two chief seats of Nanna's/Sin's worship were Ur in the south of Mesopotamia and Harran in the north.

He is commonly designated as En-zu, which means "lord of wisdom". During the period (c.2600-2400 BC) that Ur exercised a large measure of supremacy over the Euphrates valley, Sin was naturally regarded as the head of the pantheon. It is to this period that we must trace such designations of Sin as "father of the gods", "chief of the gods", "creator of all things", and the like. The "wisdom" personified by the moon-god is likewise an expression of the science of astrology, in which the observation of the moon's phases is an important factor.

AD: Here we have a supposed Moon deity with some supreme qualities that only can be connected to the major/giant deity world and the Story of Creation, which of course takes off long before the Moon even was created. This wrong interpretation is a result of not being aware of the Milky Way half hemisphere contour crescent figure.

His wife was Ningal ("Great Lady"), who bore him Utu/Shamash ("Sun") and Inanna/Ishtar (the goddess of the planet Venus). The tendency to centralize the powers of the universe leads to the establishment of the doctrine of a triad consisting of Sin/Nanna and his children.

AD: Planet Venus is confused for the Milky Way Female deity, also represented with Nut, the Great Milky Way Mother.

Sin had a beard made of lapis lazuli and rode on a winged bull. The bull was one of his symbols, through his father, Enlil, "Bull of Heaven", along with the crescent and the tripod (which may be a lamp-stand). On cylinder seals, he is represented as an old man with a flowing beard and the crescent symbol.

AD: Sin represents the northern hemisphere Milky Way figure which can be depicted as a bull and in this case the Milky Way Crescent symbol fits very well. An important Sumerian text ("Enlil and Ninlil") tells of the descent of Enlil and Ninlil, pregnant with Nanna/Suen, into the underworld. There, three "substitutions" are given to allow the ascent of Nanna/Suen. The story shows some similarities to the text known as "The Descent of Inanna".

AD: Sin descending to the Underworld describe how the northern Milky Way male figure seemingly are revolving around the Celestial Pole and in a certain position, he is diving in the direction of the southern Earth hemisphere milky Way female figure, down under the horizon, in the direction of his wife.

Conclusion: Sin is not a Moon deity but a Milky Way deity.

2) Analyzing Shamash (Supposed Sun-Deity)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamash
(Wiki=Sun-Deity)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_deity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_deities

Shamash was a native Mesopotamian deity and the sun god in the Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian pantheons. Shamash was the god of justice in Babylonia and Assyria, corresponding to Sumerian Utu.

Utu (Akkadian rendition of Sumerian UD; Sun, Assyro-Babylonian Shamash "Sun") is the Sun god in Sumerian mythology, the son of the moon god Nanna and the goddess Ningal. His brother and sisters are Ishkur and Inanna and Erishkigal. (Inanna and Erishkigal were twins)

Shamash was historically associated with the planet Saturn. Both in early and in late inscriptions Shamash is designated as the "offspring of Nannar"; i.e. of the moon-god, and since, in an enumeration of the pantheon,

AD: The deity of Saturn(us) was originally an Earth northern hemisphere Milky Way deity and Nanna also belongs to the northern Earth Overworld Milky Way hemisphere and therefore Shamash also belongs here. Nanna is descending to the Underworld where he meets Inanna. The offspring of Nannar cannot possibly be from the Moon that is created long after the primary deities in this case and stage of creation.

Nanna's chief sanctuary at Ur was named E-gish-shir-gal ("house of the great light"). It was at Ur that the role of the En Priestess developed. This was an extremely powerful role held by a princess, most notably Enheduanna, daughter of King Sargon of Akkad, and was the primary cult role associated with the cult of Nanna/Sin.

AD: Nannas chief sanctuary at Ur is the Primordial Mound, house of great light, which refers to the Milky Way bulged centre and to the First Light; the Enclosed Light.

Conclusion: Shamash is not a Sun deity, but a Milky Way deity.

Analyzing Jupiter and Marduk

3) Jupiter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_%28mythology%29

4) Marduk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marduk

Jupiter

In ancient Roman religion and myth, Jupiter or Jove was the king of the gods, and the god of sky and thunder. He is the equivalent of Zeus in the Greek pantheon. As the patron deity of ancient Rome, he ruled over laws and social order. He was one of three gods of the Capitoline Triad, along with Juno and Minerva.

AD: The major and superior deities represent the very beginning of the creation and even before. The Story of Creation is very closely connected to the mythical Primordial Mound (Ur) which is the centre of our Milky Way. Out from this centre grows everything out and spread out in the Milky Way arms, biblically described as the expulsion from Eden, and symbolized by giant mythical figures that describe the contours of the Milky Way.

Deities closely connected to this stage of creation cannot possibly be connected to the creation of even our solar system in the first hand and therefore also not with planet Jupiter. Kings of the Gods can only be connected to the giant deities of the Milky Way and not to any planet in our solar system.

Jupiter may have begun as a sky-god, concerned mainly with wine festivals and associated with the sacred oak on the Capitol. If so, he developed a twofold character.

AD: Jupiter certainly began as a Sky God, namely as the northern Milky Way deity. In this sentence, he is rightfully to be equivalent to Zeus who was the child of Cronus and Rhea, the first creator deities.

Marduk

Marduk (Sumerian spelling in Akkadian: AMAR.UTU; "solar calf"; In the perfected system of astrology, the planet Jupiter was associated with Marduk by the Hammurabi period.

AD: Jupiter can really be connected to Marduk, but not the planet Jupiter.
Marduk's original character is obscure but he was later on connected with water, vegetation, judgment, and magic. He was also regarded as the son of Ea (Sumerian Enki) and Damkina and the heir of Anu. Marduk was recognized as the heads of the pantheon.

AD: Marduk´s connection to water is very understandable as the celestial deity was/is connected to the heavenly waters or river of the Milky Way.

There are particularly two gods—Ea and Enlil—whose powers and attributes pass over to Marduk. In the case of Ea, the transfer proceeded pacifically and without effacing the older god. Marduk took over the identity of Asarluhi, the son of Ea and god of magic, so that Marduk was integrated in the pantheon of Eridu where both Ea and Asarluhi originally came from. Father Ea voluntarily recognized the superiority of the son and hands over to him the control of humanity.

Marduk being the son of Enki and Damkina: The exact meaning of Enki is uncertain: the Sumerian en is translated as a title equivalent to "lord"; it was originally a title given to the High Priest; ki means "earth"; but there are theories that ki in this name has another origin, possibly kig of unknown meaning, or kur meaning "mound". The name Ea is allegedly Hurrian in origin while others claim that it is possibly of Semitic origin and may be a derivation from the West-Semitic root *hyy meaning "life" in this case used for "spring", "running water." In Sumerian E-A means "the house of water", and it has been suggested that this was originally the name for the shrine to the God at Eridu.

AD: Again Marduk is connected to all watery symbols. In connection with mound, (Primordial Mound) it is very clear that the waters mean the Milky Way River that starts off in the Milky Way centre, the house of heavenly waters.

In Enuma Elish, a civil war between the gods was growing to a climactic battle. The Anunnaki gods gathered together to find one god who could defeat the gods rising against them. Marduk, a very young god, answered the call and was promised the position of head god.

Marduk challenges the leader of the Anunnaki gods, the dragon of the primordial sea Tiamat, to single combat and defeats her by trapping her with his net, blowing her up with his winds, and piercing her belly with an arrow. Then, he proceeds to defeat Kingu, who Tiamat put in charge of the army and wore the Tablets of Destiny on his breast, and "wrested from him the Tablets of Destiny, wrongfully his" and assumed his new position. Under his reign humans were created to bear the burdens of life so the gods could be at leisure.

AD: Again there is a connection to something primordial. The dragon archetype of Tiamat is a sea creature. The sea Tiamat is not a sea in itself but just connected to everything connected to the Milky Way River, in this case to the Milky Way Underworld, located in the Sky on the Earth southern hemisphere. Marduk was depicted as a human, often with his symbol the snake-dragon which he had taken over from the god Tishpak.

Looking at the northern hemisphere Milky Way contours, this looks very much as a male human being, representing the largest and greatest god.

Conclusion: Jupiter and Marduk are very compatible and equal, if not compared to the planet Jupiter but the Milky Way structure from where they both these gods origin.

Analyzing Venus and Isthar

5) Venus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_%28mythology%29
6) Ishtar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar

Venus

Venus was a Roman goddess principally associated with love, beauty and fertility, who played a key role in many Roman religious festivals and myths. From the third century BC, the increasing Hellenization of Roman upper classes identified her as the equivalent of the Greek goddess Aphrodite.

Venus was commonly associated with the Greek goddess Aphrodite and the Etruscan deity Turan, borrowing aspects from each. As with most other gods and goddesses in Roman mythology, the literary concept of Venus is mantled in whole-cloth borrowings from the literary Greek mythology of her equivalent counterpart, Aphrodite. The early, Etruscan or Latin goddess of vegetation and gardens became deliberately associated with the Greek Goddess Aphrodite. In some Latin mythology Eros was the son of Venus and Mars, the god of war. In other times, Venus was understood to be the consort of Vulcan.

Aphrodite. According to Hesiod's Theogony, she was born when Cronus cut off Uranus' genitals and threw them into the sea, and from the sea foam (aphros) arose Aphrodite.

AD: Venus is associated with Aphrodite who is connected to an act of Cronos.
Cronus or Kronos (Ancient Greek: Kronos) was the leader and the youngest of the first generation of Titans, divine descendants of Gaia, the earth, and Uranus, the sky. In ancient myth recorded by Hesiod's Theogony, Cronus envied the power of his father, the ruler of the universe, Uranus. Uranus drew the enmity of Cronus' mother, Gaia, when he hid the gigantic youngest children of Gaia, the hundred-armed Hecatonchires and one-eyed Cyclopes, in Tartarus, so that they would not see the light. Gaia created a great stone sickle and gathered together Cronus and his brothers to persuade them to castrate Uranus. Only Cronus was willing to do the deed, so Gaia gave him the sickle and placed him in ambush.

AD: Cronus is connected to giants or Titans who again are connected to the giant figures of the Milky Way. Aphrodite is therefore also connected to the Milky Way figure, and as the original Venus, she is the Great Mother Goddess of the Earth southern hemisphere Milky Way crescent figure.

- It is preposterous to claim planet Venus having all the qualities and attributes that originally is given to a much larger celestial object of more importance such as the very centre of our Milky Way galaxy, a centre that mythological is called “The Cosmic Wombâ€￾ that gives form and birth to everything in our galaxy.

The etymology of Greek is unknown. Hesiod connects it by with (aphros) "foam," interpreting it as "risen from the foam". This has been widely classified as a folk etymology, and numerous speculative etymologies, many of them non-Greek, have been suggested in scholarship. But Janda (2010) considers the connection with "foam" genuine, identifying the myth of Aphrodite rising out of the waters after Cronus defeats Uranus as a mytheme of Proto-Indo-European age. According to this interpretation, the name is from aphros "foam, "[she] seems" or "shines" (infinitive form *dÃoasthai), meaning "she who shines from the foam [ocean]", a byname of the dawn goddess (Eos)

AD: The foam-description is related to the creational movement of the heavenly waters that mythological has described the Milky Way River. The southern Milky Way female figure rise (is created) from the centre of our galaxy.

Conclusion:
Connecting planet Venus with these mentioned major and supreme mythological qualities and attributes is out of logical order.


Isthar

Ishtar is the Assyrian and Babylonian goddess of fertility, love, war, and sex. She is the counterpart to the Sumerian Inanna and to the cognate north-west Semitic goddess Astarte.

Ishtar was the daughter of Sin or Anu. She was particularly worshipped at the Assyrian cities of Nineveh and Arbela (Erbil). In Sumerian mythology and later for Assyrians and Babylonians, Anu (also An; (from Sumerian *An = sky, heaven)) was a sky-god, the god of heaven, lord of constellations, king of gods, spirits and demons, and dwelt in the highest heavenly regions.

AD: Planet Venus possibly cannot be connected to the Anu or Sin quality of god of heaven and lord of the constellations, dwelling on the highest heavenly regions.

Besides the lions on her gate, her symbol is an eight pointed star. In the Babylonian pantheon, she "was the divine personification of the planet Venus".

AD: There is no way planet Venus logically can be associated with an eight pointed star, but Goddess Venus can easily be connected with the Rays of the Milky Way Light.

One of the most famous myths about Ishtar describes her descent to the underworld.

AD: The mythical descent to the Underworld is just a telling of what the Earth southern hemisphere Milky Way figure is all about and especially that it is located on the southern hemisphere under the northern hemisphere, the under-world.

Even for the gods Ishtar's love was fatal. In her youth the goddess had loved Tammuz, god of the harvest, and ”if one is to believe Gilgamesh, ”this love caused the death of Tammuz.

AD: The description is a literal interpretation of the fact that Ishtar is located on the opposite Earth hemisphere of Tammuz. These two deities represent the Milky Way figures on both hemispheres. They are opposite each other, located against each other –but not at all in war against each other as scholars often states. On the contrary, they are complementary to each other, representing the whole Milky Way figure.

Conclusion. Planet Venus can of course not be either astrologically or cosmologically connected to the Milky Way Ishtar deity. This is an absurdity that distorts both the astronomical as well as the mythological logics.

Analyzing Saturn and Ninurta

7) Saturn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_%28mythology%29
8) Ninurta http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninurta

Saturn
Saturn (Latin: Saturnus) was a major Roman god of agriculture and harvest, whose reign was depicted as a Golden Age of abundance and peace by many Roman authors. In medieval times he was known as the Roman god of agriculture, justice and strength. He held a sickle in his left hand and a bundle of wheat in his right. His mother was Terra and his father was Caelus. He was identified in classical antiquity with the Greek deity Cronus, and the mythologies of the two gods are commonly mixed.

AD: It is very understandable that Saturn is mixed with the mythology of Cronus. What is not that understandable at all, is that the planet Saturn is mixed up with the Cronus Milky Way figure.

Saturn's wife was Ops (the Roman equivalent of Rhea). Saturn was the father of Ceres, Jupiter, Veritas, Pluto, and Neptune, Juno, among others. Saturn had a temple on the Forum Romanum which contained the Royal Treasury. Saturn is the namesake of both Saturn, the planet, and Saturday (dies Saturni).

Saturn is often identified with the Greek Cronus. In Hesiod's Theogony, a mythological account of the creation of the universe and Zeus' rise to power, Cronus is mentioned as the son of Uranus (the Greek equivalent of Roman Caelus), the heavens, and Gaia (the Greek equivalent of Terra), the earth. In Babylon he was called Ninib and was an agricultural deity. Saturn, called Cronus by the Greeks, was, at the dawn of the Ages of the Gods, the Protector and Sower of the Seed and his wife, Ops, (called Rhea by the Greeks) was a Harvest Helper. Saturn was one of the Seven Titans or Numina and with them, reigned supreme in the Universe. The Titans were of incredible size and strength and held power for untold ages, until they were deposed by Jupiter.

AD: Equaling planet Saturn with Cronus places planet Saturn on the mythological telling of Titans and Giants who are connected to the large (titanic) Milky Way contours, the largest celestial figure observable from the Earth. Planet Saturn can of course not supreme reigning celestial object of the Universe.

This is non sense in all categories of natural science as well of mythological terms.
Three creatures born of Terra were monstrously huge with one hundred hands and fifty heads. Three others were individually called Cyclops, because each had only one enormous eye in the middle of their foreheads. Then, there were the Titans, seven of them, formidably large and none of whom was a purely destructive force. One was actually credited with saving man after creation.

AD: In the above paragraph and here, there is confusion between Terra, planet Earth, and the Story of Creation concept of soil, meaning the first form that rise from the Milky Way centre, called The Cosmic Womb. Titans and Giants are specifically connected to the mythological Milky Way figures.

Ninurta

Ninurta (Nin Ur: Lord of the Earth/Plough) in Sumerian and Akkadian mythology was the god of Lagash, identified with Ningirsu with whom he may always have been identical. In older transliteration the name is rendered Ninib and in early commentary he was sometimes portrayed as a solar deity.

In Nippur, Ninurta was worshiped as part of a triad of deities including his father, Enlil and his mother, Ninlil. In variant mythology, his mother is said to be the deity Ninhursag.

Ninurta´s mother Ninhursag. In Sumerian mythology, Ninhursag was the earth and mother goddess, one of the seven great deities of Sumer. She is principally a fertility goddess. Temple hymn sources identify her as the 'true and great lady of heaven' and kings of Sumer were 'nourished by Ninhursag's milk'. She is typically depicted wearing a horned head-dress and tiered skirt, often with bow cases at her shoulders, and not infrequently carries a mace or baton surmounted by an omega motif or a derivation, sometimes accompanied by a lion cub on a leash. She is the tutelary deity to several Sumerian leaders.

AD: Again there is the almost usual confusion between the soil-concept from the Story of Creation and Earth. The paragraph states very clearly that she is the true and great lady of heaven and therefore Ninurta also is connected to something great in the heaven, namely the Milky Way figure.

Ninurta often appears holding a bow and arrow, a sickle sword, or a mace named Sharur: Sharur is capable of speech in the Sumerian legend "Deeds and Exploits of Ninurta" and can take the form of a winged lion and may represent an archetype for the later Shedu.

AD: Just like Marduk; Milky Way Saturn; Milky Way Jupiter etc. have a sickle sword as their attribute, this is also the case with Ninurta and therefore this deity also is connected to the mythological Milky Way figures.

Conclusion: The planetary Saturn can of course not at all be connected to either the qualities or attributes of Milky Way deity Ninurta. The planetary Saturn is confused with the Milky Way Saturnus.

Analyzing Mercury and Nergal

9) Mercury http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_%28mythology%29
10) Nergal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nergal

Mercury

Mercury did not appear among the numinous di indigetes of early Roman religion. Rather, he subsumed the earlier Dei Lucrii as Roman religion was syncretized with Greek religion during the time of the Roman Republic, starting around the 4th century BC. From the beginning, Mercury had essentially the same aspects as Hermes, wearing winged shoes talaria and a winged petasos, and carrying the caduceus, a herald's staff with two entwined snakes that was Apollo's gift to Hermes. He was often accompanied by a cockerel, herald of the new day, a ram or goat, symbolizing fertility, and a tortoise, referring to Mercury's legendary invention of the lyre from a tortoise shell.

Like Hermes, Mercury was also a messenger of the gods and a god of trade, particularly of the grain trade. Mercury was also considered a god of abundance and commercial success, particularly in Gaul. He was also, like Hermes, the Romans' psychopomp, leading newly-deceased souls to the afterlife. Additionally, Ovid wrote that Mercury carried Morpheus' dreams from the valley of Somnus to sleeping humans.

AD: The mythological concept of afterlife is closely connected to the underworld and as such the Mercury figure also is connected to the underworld Great Milky Way Mother who rules the Underworld.

Hermes is the great messenger of the gods in Greek mythology and additionally a guide to the Underworld. Hermes was born on Mount Cyllene in Arcadia. An Olympian god, he is also the patron of boundaries and of the travelers who cross them, of shepherds and cowherds, of the cunning of thieve, of orators and wit, of literature and poets, of athletics and sports, of weights and measures, of invention, and of commerce in general. His symbols include the tortoise, the rooster, the winged sandals, the winged hat, and the caduceus.

AD: Hermes was of course not born on the geographic locality of Mount Cyllene in Arcadia. This is a pulling the specific celestial cosmogony meaning down on Earth. Mount Olympus should be the correct birthing place for both Hermes and Mercury and Mount Olympus can be compared to The Primordial Mound seated in the centre of our Milky Way, also called The Cosmic Womb, from where all archetypical Titanic and Gigantic deities and Creatures are born.

In Greek mythology, Hermes was born in a sacred cave on the mountain.
The sacred cave is of course The Cosmic Womb, not on the mountain, but in the mountain of the heavenly Primordial Mound in the Milky Way Centre.

Hermes, as an inventor of fire, is a parallel of the Titan, Prometheus. In addition to the lyre, Hermes was believed to have invented many types of racing and the sports of wrestling and boxing, and therefore was a patron of athletes.

AD: The mythological Mercury/Hermes connection to a parallel of the Titan Prometheus, also suggest that the mythological Mercury has a close relationship with the titanic figures of the Milky Way, which of course not can be said of the tiny planet Mercury at all.

Nergal

Nergal actually seems to be in part a solar deity, sometimes identified with Shamash, but only a representative of a certain phase of the sun. Portrayed in hymns and myths as a god of war and pestilence, Nergal seems to represent the sun of noontime and of the summer solstice that brings destruction, high summer being the dead season in the Mesopotamian annual cycle.

Nergal was also the deity who presides over the netherworld, and who stands at the head of the special pantheon assigned to the government of the dead (supposed to be gathered in a large subterranean cave known as Aralu or Irkalla). In this capacity he has associated with him a goddess Allatu or Ereshkigal, though at one time Allatu may have functioned as the sole mistress of Aralu, ruling in her own person. In some texts the god Ninazu is the son of Nergal and Allatu/Ereshkigal.

AD: Nergal presiding over the Nether- or Underworld suggest that he preside on the Overworld of the Earth northern celestial Milky Way hemisphere.

Irkalla (also Ir-Kalla, Irkalia) is the hell-like underworld from which there is no return. It is also called Arali, Kigal, Gizal, and the lower world. Irkalla is ruled by the goddess Ereshkigal and her consort, the death god Nergal (in Babylonian mythology).

Irkalla was originally another name for Ereshkigal, who ruled the underworld alone until Nergal was sent to the underworld and seduced Ereshkigal (in Babylonian mythology). Both the deity and the location were called Irkalla, much like how Hades in Greek mythology is both the name of the underworld and the god who ruled it.

AD: It is not a god but a goddess that rules the underworld.

Underworld (netherworld) is a region in some religions and in mythologies which is thought to be under the surface of the earth. It could be a place where the souls of the recently departed go, and, in some traditions, it is identified with Hell or the realm of death. In other traditions, however, such as animistic traditions, it could be seen as the place where life appears to have originated from (such as plant life, water, etc.) and a place to which life must return at life's end, with no negative undertones.

AD: As stated several times: The Underworld is on the opposite location of the Overworld that is located over the northern Earth hemisphere representing the Milky Way figure on both hemispheres. The statement, of Under the surface of the Earth, mean literary and cosmologically on the southern hemisphere. The Underworld Milky Way figures are mostly connected to mythological female archetypes, hence the descendent of Inanna and other comparative myths.

- The animistic traditional understanding of the Underworld from where all life has originated is mythological and cosmologically is very correct accordingly the mythical concept of The Cosmic Womb, located in the Milky Way galaxy centre, also named The Primordial Mound; The first Light and The Enclosed Light, from where all living things have been created and moved out in the Milky Way galactic surroundings.

Nergal's fiery aspect appears in names or epithets such as Lugalgira, Sharrapu ("the burner," a reference to his manner of dealing with outdated teachings), Erra, Gibil (though this name more properly belongs to Nusku), and Sibitti.

A certain confusion exists in cuneiform literature between Ninurta and Nergal. Nergal has epithets such as the "raging king," the "furious one," and the like. A play upon his name—separated into three elements as Ne-uru-gal (lord of the great dwelling) -- expresses his position at the head of the nether-world pantheon.

AD: This is not a confusion at all. Nergal being “the head of The Underworld, i.e situated over the southern hemisphere Milky Way, representing of course the northern hemisphere Overworld Milky Way deity which quality, amongst others, is depicted as a giant fiery warrior, wearing his Sickle Sword, just like Odin in the Norse Mythology. The supposed confusion only deals with the scholarly lack of Mytho-Cosmological insight.

In the late Babylonian astral-theological system Nergal is related to the planet Mars. As a fiery god of destruction and war, Nergal doubtless seemed an appropriate choice for the red planet, and he was equated by the Greeks either to the combative demigod Heracles (Latin Hercules) or to the war-god Ares (Latin Mars) -- hence the current name of the planet. In Babylonian ecclesiastical art the great lion-headed colossi serving as guardians to the temples and palaces seem to symbolise Nergal, just as the bull-headed colossi probably typify Ninurta.

Mars

(Latin: Mars, adjectives Martius and Martialis) was the Roman god of war and also an agricultural guardian, a combination characteristic of early Rome. He was second in importance only to Jupiter. Under the influence of Greek culture, Mars was identified with the Greek god Ares, whose myths were reinterpreted in Roman literature and art under the name of Mars. But the character and dignity of Mars differed in fundamental ways from that of his Greek counterpart, who is often treated with contempt and revulsion in Greek literature. Mars was a part of the Archaic Triad along with Jupiter and Quirinus, the latter of whom as a guardian of the Roman people had no Greek equivalent.

AD: Like Nergal, the mythological Mars and Ares, the quality of war deity is related to the northern Milky Way male figure wearing a Spear or Sickle Sword.

Ares is the Greek god of war. "Ares is apparently an ancient abstract noun meaning throng of battle, war. He is one of the Twelve Olympians, and the son of Zeus and Hera. As the Olympian god of warfare, righteous indignation, and courage; lover of Aphrodite and "Leader of Righteous Men," Ares presides over male passion, the weapons and preparations for war, the defense and protection of cities, rebellion and civil order, policing of banditry, masculinity, integrity, and personal courage.

AD: The mythological Ares being the Olympian God of Warfare and a lover of Aphrodite, the Great Milky Way Mother on the southern Earth hemisphere reveals the fact that Ares; Mars and Nergal all are the same mythological figure which several cultural periods have given different names to the very same Mytho-Cosmological celestial object.

Conclusion: The inferior planets of Mercury and Mars can of course not be connected to anything regarded to the superior Milky Way Mythology to which the Nergal deity clearly is connected.

Analyzing Earth Mythology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_%28mythology%29

NB: Strangely enough the Earth itself does not show up in these comparisons of the supposed planetary deities. Searching Earth Mythology on the internet, Gaia shows up on Wikipedia:

Gaia is a primordial deity in the Ancient Greek pantheon and considered a Mother Titan or Great Titan.

AD: Planet Earth is surely not at giant deity or a primordial deity in the Mytho-Cosmlogical realms. As mention several times Giants and Titans belong to the Milky Way structure.

Her equivalent in the Roman pantheon was Terra Mater or Tellus. Romans, unlike Greeks, did not consistently distinguish an Earth Titan (Tellus) from a grain goddess Ceres.

AD: Trying to equal Gaia=Earth with Terra Mater also scholarly goes very wrong interpretively. An Earth Titan is a directly contra dictionary mythological concept! Planet Earth is the one that is over-whelmed by the titanic structure of the Milky Way to which Gaia really belongs.

Terra Mater. Romans appealed to Terra over earthquakes, and along with the grain goddess Ceres, she was responsible for the productivity of farmland. She was also associated with marriage, motherhood, pregnant women, and pregnant animals. Terra's Greek counterpart is Gaia.

AD: Both the Grain Goddess Ceres and Gaia belongs to the southern Milky Way structure.

The two words Terra and Tellus are thought to derive from the formulaic phrase tersa tellus, meaning "dry land"; it may also be related to the similar sounding name of the equivalent Etruscan goddess Cel. If this is true, Tellus might be the more ancient version of the name.

AD: The mythological, dry land appears in the Story of Creation when the first soil is created in the Cosmic Womb in the centre of our galaxy.

According to The Oxford Classical Dictionary, Terra refers to the element earth (one of the four basic elements of earth, air, water, and fire) and Tellus refers to the guardian deity of Earth and by extension the globe itself.

AD: This is almost - correct. The mythological meaning is soil, but not in connection with Earth, but with The Primordial Mound from where all matter is created in the Milky Way centre.

Hesiod's Theogony (116ff) tells how, from Chaos, arose broad-breasted Gaia, the everlasting foundation of the gods of Olympus. She brought forth Uranus, the starry sky, her equal, to cover her, the hills (Ourea), and the fruitless deep of the Sea, Pontus, "without sweet union of love," out of her own self through parthenogenesis. But afterwards, as Hesiod tells it, she is a great god of nature.

She (Gaia) lay with her son, Uranus, and bore the world-ocean god Oceanus, Coeus and Crius and the Titans Hyperion and Iapetus, Theia and Rhea, Themis, Mnemosyne, and Phoebe of the golden crown, and lovely Tethys. After them was born Cronus the wily, youngest and most terrible of her children, and he hated his lusty sire.

AD: It is astonishing that somebody can equal the planet Earth with the broad-breasted giant Gaia that gives birth to everything else in the Milky Way, including herself. The reference to different World-Ocean deities of course is dealing with the celestial Milky Way River and the deities connected to these almost forgotten Milky Way Myths.

Hesiod mentions Gaia's further offspring conceived with Uranus: first the giant one-eyed Cyclopes: Brontes ("thunderer"), Steropes ("lightning"), and the "bright" Arges.

Cyclopes.

In Greek mythology and later Roman mythology, a Cyclops was a member of a primordial race of giants, each with a single eye in the middle of its forehead. The name is widely thought to mean "circle-eyed".

AD: Cyclops are of course connected to Giants and Titans (The Norse Mytology´s Jaetter) representing the 2 Earth hemispheres Milky Way contours that separated is observed as a crescent Milky Way figure that, doubled up, forms an eyelike structure around the Earth axis Celestial Pole, giving these 2 additional crescent symbols the name of The Eye of the God and Goddess or the Circle Eye, again referring to the northern and southern Earth Axis Celestial Polar Circle.

End remarks: Connecting inferior celestial planets to superior celestial and Mythological Milky Way Deities should really be totally avoided in the first place as pure absurdity. The attempt to do so anyway is not precisely a quality mark of historical and mythological insight and natural skills that has fatally declined since ancient time accordingly to the humanity mowing more and more away from the natural world picture and thereby mowing away from the intuitive way of gathering knowledge.

It is my humble hope that this article can be added to get the Mythological Knowledge, especially the Milky Way Myths, back on the High Seat where it really belongs.
by Native
Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:38 am
Forum: Mythology and Religion
Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
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02. Milky Way Myth Basics

Some basic informations regarding the Milky Way Mythology When studying mythology, there seems to be a great interpretive confusion going on, where the mythical telling is disconnected to the right celestial objects. 1. From the many mythical and religious stories of Creation we have the telling of...
by Native
Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:36 am
Forum: Mythology and Religion
Topic: One Mythology - One Religion - One Cosmology - One People
Replies: 50
Views: 8579

01. Milky Way Mythology

Dear Forum Friends, I would like to introduce this topic because the Milky Way Mythology is almost forgotten, in spite of the fact that the Milky Way is connected very closely to the globally stories of Creation. - Myths are not "ancient hearsayings", but real cosmological knowledge. - When studyin...