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by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Chief Seattle speech fraud
Replies: 18
Views: 4450

I couldn't disagree more. Campbell's point in mentioning the 'speech' was that it typified a basic approach to life of certain mythological tradition, not that it was a lovely idea that needed to be heard. And to say that the new text is essentially the same as what is supposed to be closer to the o...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Martin Buber
Replies: 4
Views: 1685

Does anyone recall hearing Campbell say that with some idea or another Buber almost deserved his reputation? Or maybe that he almost made up for some other ideas of his? I think that I heard him saying this (as opposed to reading it), but whether it was on a video or audio only recording I'm not sur...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: The meaning of a flower
Replies: 7
Views: 2814

I'm curious about this myself. Does anyone know what text this originally comes from? When I do a search on the Web all I find is references to discussion about the Buddha's Flower Sermon, but not the text itself.
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Where did Jung's patients go?
Replies: 70
Views: 17529

Parcival said Robert, if I am reading correctly, your post on hysteria and Freud, is denying the plausibility of abuse and trauma as the root cause of hysteria (though I do not yet know your thoughts on shell shock and PTST in relation to “hysteria”). That it was spectacle. But I ask this: why would...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Whose dogma?
Replies: 6
Views: 1317

Just a few quick points. The Bishop's name is John Shelby Spong. It was one of his points that no serious biblical scholar of the past 30 years or so would maintain a strict doctrine of biblical inerrancy, which seems to point to a disconnect between the scholars he knows and the average American ev...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Where did Jung's patients go?
Replies: 70
Views: 17529

TomGix, that is great! If that's not a description of psychotherapy I don't know what is. And you're bringing it in is a great example of the kind of stepping outside the limits of an argument to bring in new perspectives that I think Campbell himself employed. It reminded me that the Church had bee...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Internal divinity and external divinity, relationship and id
Replies: 8
Views: 1737

Joe, I completely aggree with your point, at times it can seem like Campbell is dismissive of the Western way of relationship to the divine. However I don't think that this is really the case. If, as he says, God is both transcendent and immanent, then any position you can take towards it is both ri...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: doors closed when you've followed your bliss
Replies: 10
Views: 2629

I always think that the perfect life is a combination of all emotions, even the anguish. "Bliss" is in some ways a misnomer, I think. It's not about perfect happiness, but perfect life. Beautiful! :smile: I think this is the best statement of Campbell's point that I've seen. Remember that he often ...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Martin Buber
Replies: 4
Views: 1685

Thanks Martin, much as I love that story that was not what I was looking for. I'm almost postive that I remember just a real brief mention of some idea of Buber's that "almost justifies his reputation." It was the story you've quoted that made it stand out, as it sure makes it seem that Campbell did...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: Follow Your Bliss
Topic: My favorite poem. What 's yours?
Replies: 282
Views: 36944

O Friend, hope for Him whilst you live, know whilst you live, understand whilst you live; for in life deliverance abides. If your bonds be not broken whilst living, what hope of deliverance in death? It is but an empty dream that the soul shall have union with Him because it has passed from the body...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Where did Jung's patients go?
Replies: 70
Views: 17529

Just a quick post, as I'm still checking my sources for a reply to the questions about Jung's patients at the Bergholzi. In discussing the origins of hysteria, Parcival quotes This empathetic identification with his patients’ reactions is characteristic of Freud’s early writings on hysteria. His cas...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Where did Jung's patients go?
Replies: 70
Views: 17529

TomGX, you were posting as I was writing my last post, but when I saw yours I wanted to give a reply to two points. You asked if it were true that -schizophrenia cuts equally across social classes The answer is no. Schizophrenia is found to be twice as prevalent in the lowest social class as in the ...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 26131

Back again... I wanted to stop hammering away at this one issue and leave this thread open for others, but since it's had no posts for awhile now until Bodhi’s last post reminded me this thread was here.... there was one point that I'd like to reply to (ah, the need to get the last word, always pres...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Gregory Bateson
Replies: 6
Views: 2352

There's a thread over in the 1000 Faces forum asking if Campbell had ever met Noam Chomsky, and that reminded me that I wanted to ask if anyone knew if Campbell ever commented on Bateson's work? Or vice versa? They were both frequent visitors at Esalen, and since they are each major contributors to ...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Where did Jung's patients go?
Replies: 70
Views: 17529

Bodhi, you said Of course, that does not prove there is – or isn’t - a collective unconscious, which isn’t my intent (to me, it’s a concept that cannot be proved – like God, or the existence of a soul – a mythological concept, part of a twentieth-century mythic perspective cloaked in a lab coat) Per...