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by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

I read somewhere that sanity and health can be measured by the strength of your desire for life, and maturity by the degree to which you accept the fact that it ends.

Just one of those little sayings that's not really very well defined or reasoned, but this one has stayed with me.
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

Here is a section of the transcript of an interview with Campbell by Michael Toms and an unknown (to me) interviewer on New Dimensions Radio. The interview is available from the New Dimensions website and titled Myths, Personal Dreams and Universal Themes Unknown interviewer: What is your anticipati...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Jung and Homosexuality
Replies: 10
Views: 3977

I knew there was a thread I was forgetting! Thanks for bringing it back to my attention guys. What these posts bring to mind mostly is Jung's definition of inferior thinking as opinion. While the transcendent is just that, beyong words or definitions, all the points in this thread (human sexual beha...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

Ruiz, perhaps it doesn't come through in the transcript, but it's perfectly clear listening to the interview that JC is not confusing the literal and metaphorical senses here. What is also clear is that he did not answer the question that was asked. I submit that at least part of the reason for this...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Forget Bliss for a little while...What's the Action Plan?
Replies: 79
Views: 11454

Just a note on the idea of matriarchy vs. patriarchy, I remember a conversation where Campbell, when asked about this said something like (please pardon my paraphrasing) I don't think there ever was such a thing as matriarchy. We can't locate it in space and time .... we musn't mistake the period wh...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

BodhiBliss, I'd like to jump back a page or two and thank you for something you pointed out about my experience of becoming conscious of myself as Christian. ... you had not accepted the metaphor as real, but the images nevertheless connected - so one could say the metaphor was iindeed working, desp...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Creation of mythology
Replies: 3
Views: 1656

For a really great and funny treatment about what "really" may have been going on around the creation of the New Testament, I recommend Gore Vidal's Live From Golgotha. Sorry Nights Watch, not a very profound reply to your post, but I love this book. Vidal also did a more serious attempt at looking ...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: Mythological Tools for Rites of Initiations and Passage
Topic: Campbell's opinion on the "I Ching - Book of Changes?"
Replies: 7
Views: 2747

Emailed the clip, let me know if you don't receive it - Robert
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

I'm still wondering about that question I first brought up, about whether or not a metaphor has to be accepted as real in some sense to be fully effective. Along with this, the point that bodhibliss made about the Judeo-Christian myth no longer being effective for most of the people in his immediate...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

Is that amor fati?
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

but i can also identify with consciousness qua Consciousness, the Consciousness which flows through me, out of which this "I-drop" emerges, back into which this I-drop dissolves, and which animates and informs my individual consciousness while "I" am here. This is exactly the point that I come up a...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

Robert G. was asking if it has to refer to something real to make sense, while Ruiz was talking about the hypnotizing quality of the metaphor Actually what I was wondering was if the metaphor had to be accepted as real to be effective, not if it had to refer to something real. To me, there is a dif...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

There's so much I'd like to reply to, but one thing in particular caught me. If Adam hadn't eaten the apple and brought both knowledge and death into the world, we never would have had a book written about it. He and Eve just would have gone on forever, and what kind of story is that? Leaving aside ...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Campbell in Academic Circles
Replies: 3
Views: 1801

Joe, the download of David Miller's lecture at Pacifica deals with some of these issues, I thing it's worth checking it out. The audio is at http://www.jcf.org/media/audio/David-Miller_The-Fire-is-in-the-Mind_Pacifica-20040417.mp3 the text is at http://www.jcf.org/media/audio/David-Miller_The-Fire-i...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25750

I wonder if eventually you don't have to accept the metaphor as real in some sense to get the full benefit of it. I mean, to engage all those aspects of your Self which are meant to be energized and directed by the symbol maybe you have to drop the focus from the 'as if' and really give yourself to ...