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by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25880

Tony, I'm not sure I follow this This provides us with an almost Gaia like view of a living Universe which at one extreme is irreducible and at the other indeterminate. As I understand the concept of irreducibility, it holds that the object under discussion cannot be explained by examining its compo...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25880

I read a wonderful definition of faith today in an essay by Richard Taylor, as an "involuntary conviction". It is outside the realms of science and rationality, has no need of them, and should not try to avail itself of them. It seems to me that any attribution of qualities to that which is "outside...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Myth Thinking and Politics
Replies: 7
Views: 1473

I think a distinction should be made between spirituality and religion. Jung said, "Religion is a system to defend us against the experience of God." and this is a perfect example. In my view, God broadly refers to true spirituality in all its forms. True spirituality is more open-minded and curiou...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Myths of Our Day
Replies: 3
Views: 1774

I always thought it was interesting that Campbell seemed to have an almost complete lack of knowledge of science fiction as literature. He seemed genuinely surprised that, when he finally saw the Star Wars films, they dealt with mythological themes, which I think are more prevalent than not in scien...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25880

Ruiz, thank you for a beautiful and thought-provoking post! Particularly In other words study mythology and then throw it away! It did it's job! Transcend mythology you could say. hit home for me. Part of my frustrations I think have come from searching for answers in mythology, without appreciating...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Eureka!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Replies: 24
Views: 4277

Yes, Cadfael. I agree there are moral absolutes. But for each, I would think, would be an unquestionable argument, beyond the need for a divine revelation The problem here is that there are no unquestionable arguments regarding moral issues. If there were this would be a dead issue. Every position ...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: LSD, aesthetic arrest, and transformation
Replies: 6
Views: 2277

I was listening to the audio download "Interpreting Symbolic Forms" and was really struck by something Campbell said. He describes patients given shots of LSD and being transfixed by the marvel of ordinary objects. He equates this with aesthetic arrest, the revelation of art. As someone who has done...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: Follow Your Bliss
Topic: Did the Call fail you?
Replies: 26
Views: 7139

Bliss though does not seem a final destination at which one arrives. As i read Campbell, the process of following one's bliss, with all its ups and downs, is itself the goal. I think this is right on. I remember Campbell quoting something to the effect that 'when you're on a journey, and your goal ...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Human Nature
Replies: 69
Views: 11991

we also think in relation to the huge body of hidden information that is part of the collective unconscious that we are all born with The more I study, the less I think that there is such a thing as a collective unconscious that we are born with. I am moved more and more towards the idea of a cultu...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: Follow Your Bliss
Topic: When you´re offered the gift of bliss...
Replies: 11
Views: 3789

Does the theory say anything about how we are moving through these five stages? Do they come in a certain order, or do we have to pass through one in order to qualify for the next, or how do they look upon it. I'm no expert in the Vaishnava tradition, but I don't think that these are 'stages' in th...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: Follow Your Bliss
Topic: Did the Call fail you?
Replies: 26
Views: 7139

Why is it that I anticipate people following the advice of "follow your bliss" to suddenly drop everything and run off into the wilds? Am I stereotyping? Maybe. To use Campbell as an example, I think that his bliss was in both his work, and Jean Erdman. I don't see the either/or distinction in his ...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Human Nature
Replies: 69
Views: 11991

I always thought of consciousness, whether collective or individual, as biological. What else could it be? It could be social, or learned. Especially when speaking of the ego or individuated consciousness, this seems to be the case. George Herbert Mead saw not only the ego but the whole human mind ...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25880

BodhiBliss, you say I know scientific metaphors make Robert nervous, and I believe I understand why. I'm not sure from what you wrote after this that I've been clear about my concerns in regards to this, so I'd like to clear that up. First, my objections apply to quantum physics, not to science in g...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Conversation with a Thousand Faces
Topic: Eureka!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Replies: 24
Views: 4277

Clemsy, my point is that when we speak of something as morally right or wrong, that we are not making the same kind of statement as when we say something is objectively true or false. When I say "such as such is true" I am saying something about the objective universe. When I say "such and such is r...
by Robert G.
Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: The Wisdom Pool: The Associates Research Dialogue
Topic: Death
Replies: 117
Views: 25880

Hi all, looking at my last post I realize that I sound pretty heavy-handed, as if I think that what I think is THE right way to think. I just wanted to apologize for that, I honestly didn't intend to come off that way. Ruiz, thanks for the distinctions! Another way to look at it could be between met...