If that is your definition fair enough. But by my definition of "natural" putting any prefix on natural makes it an oxymoron.
It also makes it convenient too? What about right and wrong can we put any prefix on those?
Thanks for the book but no thanks. I don't argue that a dualistic point of view is unhealthy but I am against the people who will use it for their own domination over the world, that is unhealthy at least for the rest of us. it is ok we all wanna give purpose to our existence when there is none.Can I recommend "Survival of the Sickest" by Dr Sharon Moalem. He gives a slightly different view of a tleast health. But then some would argue a dualist point of view is ultimately unhealthy even from a psychological point of view.
Convenient again, next thing you know we are all lab rats. After all materialism and no moral scientific objectivity are serving those in power.. Granted we dont have control over our lives and there is no morality in the world what I consider moral is not moral for you and vice versa. What we can do then when the unpredictable event comes into our lives to act according to our humanity or to what is our best interest. I think it is a matter of courage.For all practical purpose I'll behave as though I have free will and bear the resultant cause and effect. But I won't (as I have for fifty odd years) dismiss the possibility of the lack of free will. It leads to some very interesting perspectives, not just nihilism.
Also there are arguments that are not deterministic at the core, but lead to the conclusion to a lack of free will.
Here's a nice one by Galen Strawson in an interview.
You know my stepfather is eighty years old and a surgeon and he says ofcrouse there is moral responsibility in science. Feel free to indulge me on those interesting perspectives.
Evinnra, this is the second time you misunderstand my post.
Allow me to rephrase. If you affirm life for what it is you don't feel compelled to be superior(desire) or inferior(fear) or to be part of any institution then you don't look to dominate but work together in harmony, that is at least the observation i make.- is it the destruction that is unnatural,
- is it the fact that sentient beings have fears and desires that is unnatural,
- is it the affirmation of life by sentient beings that is unnatural,
Nature is what it is. It is when people with the knowledge of what is right and wrong that choose to act according to their best interests no matter the cost that I consider unnatural. Maybe though we should have another word for unnatural? You know though you cant beat common sense.
At the end I am happy that the most influential artists and scientists and spiritual people seem to grasp this simple realization that valuing life is much more important than what we want to prove.