the death father

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Post by jasonv » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am

I am a research student looking at american films in relation to Campbell's work.
Recently I was watching a BBC documentary about Campbell and someone is quoted as saying that "Darth Vader translates directly as meaning "the death father"", but no mention is made of what language this would be a tranlation from (if any)!

does anyone have any ideas or information that could help me out regarding this?
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Post by Mark O. » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am

Hi - don't know if you've come across this...

From Wikipedia:

It is interesting to note that "Vader" is the Dutch word for "father" and that the German word for "father" (Vater) is similar. Thus, it may be tempting to read the character name "Darth Vader" as "Dark Father," a word-play that may well be the root of the Sith title. However, judging by the origin of the other Sith names, Vader may also possibly be a derivative of the word "invader." It is worth noting that in the original scripts for Star Wars, the name "Darth Vader" was given to a normal Imperial general. The title "Darth" may also come from "Dark Lord of the Sith." In the French translation of the movies, his name is translated as "Dark Vador", which means nothing in French.

In the fictional Star Wars universe, Darth precedes the title of a Sith Lord.

Contrary to popular belief, the word "Darth" is neither a Dutch nor German word meaning "dark" (donker and dunkel, respectively). Also, Darth is often thought to be a combination of letters from the title 'Dark Lord of the Sith', but there is no basis in Star Wars canon for this. "Darth" may also be a portmanteau of "dark" and "death."

And from elsewhere on that site:

The term first appeared in the original script for Star Wars IV: A New Hope, which bore little resemblance to the final release of the film. In it, a "Darth Vader" appeared as an Imperial official who would be renamed Grand Moff Tarkin in the final film, with Darth Vader becoming the name of the menacing black-armored villain.

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Post by Siddha » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am

Mark O,

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Post by jasonv » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am

thanks marko. you've been a massive help.
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Post by Mark O. » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am

Glad to have been of service!

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Post by Raphael » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am

· Darth Andeddu
· Darth Bane
· Darth Bandon
· Darth Malak
· Darth Maul
· Darth Millennial
· Darth Nihilus
· Darth Plagueis
· Darth Revan
· Darth Rivan
· Darth Ruin
· Darth Sidious
· Darth Sion
· Darth Traya
· Darth Tyranus
· Darth Vader
· Darth Zannah

Went to that link at Wikipedia…I noticed they also have a link called Jedi Religion. Now imagine if our civilization was to perish and these were the only ‘religious’ records to survive as a legacy of our civilization?
The only 2 DVD disks to survive an Apocalypse?
What kind of a wacky civilization would it begat?
And would it be any wackier than what the Jedi-suits spread to the four corners of the globe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jedi_religion

Just a thought,
Namaste,

Raphael



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