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August 20, 2021 at 4:53 pm #6067
Gabrielle Basha joins us this week in Conversations of a Higher Order to discuss “The Power of Tenderness: Ted Lasso, Grail Hero” (click on link to read), her contribution this week to our MythBlast essay series. In addition to serving as the JCF’s Communications Manager (which conveys only the slightest sense of all she does for the Foundation), Ms. Basha is a writer and educator with a background in art history and children’s literature.
Please keep in mind this is not an interview. I will get the ball rolling with a comment and a question or two, but please join in and share your comments, questions, and observations directly with Ms. Basha. Frankly, it’s your thoughts, reactions, observations and insights that make this a communal exchange of ideas – a true “conversation of a higher order.”
Let’s begin:
Gabrielle – I confess I have yet to see a single episode of Ted Lasso; it airs on a streaming service I do not have and did not plan to get, though I suspect that’s about to change. However, considering this is your initial entry in the MythBlast series, perhaps you could first introduce yourself to readers by sharing how and when you discovered the work of Joseph Campbell?
And then I’d like to turn to what strikes me as the theme of your piece:
What does our admiration say about this brand of masculinity? I’ve sat with this question for a long time. The conclusion, I believe, is deceptively simple: To be hurt and remain vulnerable is the ultimate strength. To remain open, to trust, to forgive, is the ultimate honorability.”
I am deeply moved by this compelling and poignant observation, Gabrielle. “To be hurt and remain vulnerable” – not to automatically strike out in anger, nor even just be stoic and walk it off, but to step into and embrace the pain and the hurt – certainly not the default perspective in our contemporary “nice guys finish last” culture.
It’s almost as if Ted Lasso is asking the viewer – especially men – “What ails Thee?”
Is this vision of masculinity just aspiration – what could be but isn’t yet – or is it within reach? What male figures come to your mind as you sit with this question –not so much real people in your life, but the role models to point the way? Whether public figures or fictional characters, where else (in addition to Parzival, Gawain, and Mr. Lasso) would you suggest I turn (speaking both as an individual, and specifically as a guy) for clues on how to get from here to there?
Thank you for a profound and thought-provoking piece! There is so much more that is bubbling to the surface right now – I am so looking forward to feedback from your readers of all genders.
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August 22, 2021 at 4:02 pm #6086
Thank you for the introduction, Stephen! I’m glad to be able to talk about this week’s MythBlast with the community. I have to admit, there was so much more I wanted to say, it was tough to keep the word count within bounds.
I was first introduced to Campbell’s work through my mom, herself a myth-minded storyteller and artist. We watched the Bill Moyers special the summer after my senior year of high school and I was riveted. My introduction to Campbell that summer, then to John Berger soon after through Ways of Seeing, was a one-two punch that bust open up my understanding of what art can do.
It feels notable to me that the men I have admired in my early life as a reader and artist have had a gentleness to them, a humility that lets wonder in. As a child of the 1980s and ’90s, for me this includes Fred Rogers, Jim Henson, and Bob Ross: paragons of what masculinity can be in our modern Western culture (being American, I can and will only speak to representation in Western culture, in this piece and beyond, so please keep that in mind). It’s also important to note here that these are all white men who have likely been afforded the relative space and comfort in their lives to be able to remain creative and thoughtful, so there is privilege there as well. This doesn’t preclude anyone from accessing this type of masculinity, but it sure does make it easier for some.
Masculinity manifests in so many different ways, so I want to make a small note about what I mean here: in this essay and for the purposes of this conversation, let’s have a shared understanding of masculinity as this quality in people who identify as men, who move through the world in what’s perceived as a male body.
What’s interesting to me is that we often talk about our “humanity,” whether it’s about finding it, losing it, or having faith in it restored. Unlike masculinity, “humanity” isn’t gendered… and yet I think we are talking about so many of the same qualities. Compassion, humility, kindness, justice, empathy, the desire to do the right thing and support others, to put them before yourself.
I feel compelled to add, too, that this gentleness isn’t just a “nice to have,” but a necessity. Masculinity lacking these qualities is what we call “toxic” for a reason. It’s truly a matter of life and death that the masculine among us conform to more human qualities.
What I love about Ted is his ability to not take things personally, including how people see him. He strives to understand how other people work. He forgives, and it’s genuine. Anyone who’s spent time in an American high school knows sincerity is the death of coolness, and really, what’s more powerful that a person who chooses kindness and understanding over fearful respect and aloofness? To me, that’s bravery.
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August 23, 2021 at 1:33 am #6088
Gabrielle,
I loved your essay! Once one is introduced to Joseph Campbell and his perspective on myth…those reflections and images become rooted in the psyche and imagination…and one begins to see the stories everywhere.
Not just in the past but in the present (the Now) as you do with Ted Lasso!
A wonderful comparison which brings life to the old tale anew!
As far as going over word counts, heh heh…here on these boards, it is lovely to discover I’m not alone in musing a long on roads of words! It’s because of inspiration!
And I’m here because I enjoy the musing of others!
But I’m not going to take off in my usual tangents on this subject, because what you wrote sums up these Grail myths in a beautiful way!
In fact your introduction to Campbell sounds very familiar!! For me it was also from my Mom (artist/astronomer) and from one of our friends, Clarice Bowman, the first female Methodist Minister in NC. Clarice introduced Campbell to my Mom first!
At 10 I was too young to fully appreciate the Power of Myth…but like you, as a child of the 80s…Fred Rogers, Bob Ross…(happy accidents! Speaking of Holy Fool moments!) inspired alongside others. And who doesn’t love Kermit?! Speaking of Henson. (Smile)But at 17 (attending a public Fine Arts school in my senior year) taking and performing dance…when the Power of Myth returned to PBS…an Aha! Call to adventure woke inside and I was hooked!
I looked for as many Campbell and Campbell related books as I could find!
There is something beautifully poignant in your work expressing the need for that return to tenderness and being open/vulnerable/kind. I love it!
I want to pull that quote back up from your myth blast (the one mis-attributed to Kurt Vonnegut.)
Will have to pull out from this…to copy paste…but I’m thankful for the Grail subject this month on this site.
To read all of these contributing authors and now to read your piece, Gabrielle…it gives hope…Hope something deeper and very much needed is waking once more inside each of us!
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August 23, 2021 at 2:59 pm #6091
Thank you very much for your kind words – and isn’t it funny how discovering Campbell is like finding a door to a room in your house you didn’t even know was there? His work puts so much else into perspective.
I also love how much our stories have in common. Thank god for mothers!
"...Myths, so to say, are public dreams; dreams are private myths."
– Joseph Campbell, Myths to Live By
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August 23, 2021 at 2:08 am #6089
This yes!
Writer and artist Iain Thomas captures the power of tenderness with this line (which is, fascinatingly, often misattributed to Kurt Vonnegut):“Be soft. Do not let the world make you hard. Do not let the pain make you hate. Do not let the bitterness steal your sweetness. Take pride that even though the rest of the world may disagree, you still believe it to be a beautiful place.”
Iain Thomas, I Wrote This For You
To not allow the cynicism of the world erase the beauty beneath…
Can we still believe in the Kindness of Gawain? Do we no longer think this is possible? That a Gawain does not fit the profile of our jaded world view?
But your piece asks us through the example of Ted Lasso…why couldn’t we? And what a wonderful and remarkable place to be? To once again see the beauty in each other? As well as in the deeper world we all share?
To be open to the transcendent and not be jaded?“Do not let pain make you hate. Do not let bitterness steal your sweetness.”
Yes.
And does that openness/kindness return to compassion born from the heart, a natural state, have the potential to heal or thaw the ice in every wasteland from Parcival and Gawain to Ted Lasso?
Rather than wrestling with compassion from the intellect…more of a mental striving? And defining?
To return not only to the question but to an un-jaded state, which still can see all the beauty in the world and not apologize for seeing it?
Not that the word judgement is completely negative but perhaps it’s the head that judges and the heart(or deeper universal psyche, which discerns. (A gentler word, which listens and observes)
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August 23, 2021 at 3:07 am #6090
Gabrielle,
I enjoyed your article very much. Please clarify for me your following line: “Throughout the first season of the show, Ted never stops asking Rebecca, “What ails thee?” He doesn’t make the same mistake Parcival does—in fact, he makes the opposite mistake. His nature leads him to ask, repeatedly, the exact wrong question.”
Though I haven’t seen the show to understand if context is relevant to your statement, why do you say that it is the “exact wrong question” when Parcival’s mistake was not to ask it at all?
Thank you.
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August 23, 2021 at 3:10 pm #6092
Thank you for your comment, and your question. Both these men are strangers in an uncertain situation far from home. While Parcival fights his nature to appear as a proper knight, Ted leans into his nature as something of a crutch. Whatever the reason, he makes the opposite blunder of Parcival: rather than holding it all back for appearances, he lets it all out, appearances be damned.
Whereas Parcival would have been able to heal the Grail King with his nature, try as he might, Ted will not be able to do the same with Rebecca. Maybe there was no “What ails thee?” equivalent in Ted’s case. Not to spoil the plot too much, but Rebecca does eventually bend. Ted himself doesn’t heal Rebecca, though his nature does show her there’s another way to live; she’s responsible for healing herself.
"...Myths, so to say, are public dreams; dreams are private myths."
– Joseph Campbell, Myths to Live By
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August 24, 2021 at 8:44 am #6093
Hey Everyone, if you haven’t seen the show, spoilers ahead.
I watched Lasso in almost one go and not sure how I missed it. Lasso and Resident Alien are two of the best stories I have watched in the last years, interesting that they are both comedies.
Gabrielle, thanks for the essay I needed that, people tell me I am too stiff these days, especially in the workplace.
Ofcourse the ultimate trial in all our lives and I dont think this has to do with gender is like Campbell said and like most stories focus “is the system is gonna deprive you of your humanity or are you gonna use the system for human purposes.” Then again we have to be honest about this. I am a firm believer that in this life everything is about balance, this view of masculinity that seems to be a new age trend, like embracing your feminine side which also means compassion and kindness, does not come without a cost, nice guys do finish last and men who embrace this side do seem to fail and break in a harsh and competitive environment which we call society. That is just a fact and it also one of the points the story is trying to make, kinda, you can feel the author struggling with this idea a bit. For that honesty, I give him a thumb up, and even though the author seems to imply that men (husband, father) are the root cause of the wasteland and leaves it open without reconciling it, at least he is honest that kindness and relationships wont get you the win. And therein lies the rub. Being the winner and alone or be the loser and with good relationships. Like Jung said the opposite of power is not powerlessness, its relationships.
Romanticism is obviously escapism but its very much needed sometimes. I guess the question is can you be like Lasso and not break down. Well Lasso did seem to have a couple of break downs but the show being predominately a comedy it has to have a happy ending. Personally I think we are a mixture of qualities.
Anyways, just saying.
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August 24, 2021 at 9:02 pm #6096
Thanks. I’m still confused trying to discern the lessons of the two stories, and your thoughts on them, to apply to my life in terms of whether to offer a type of “What ails thee?” question to a friend. We’ve been told that Parcival errs by not asking it, though you suggest that he still would have been able to heal the Grail King with his compassionate (?) nature. You also suggest that Lasso blunders by blurting the question out regardless of consequences (whatever they turned out to be), and that he shouldn’t have asked the question, instead of leading by example and allowing Rebecca to heal herself. Thus, in both cases, it sounds like you suggest it’s better to not directly ask the question and instead only demonstrate compassion. Am I reading you correctly? If so, why does your take differ from the traditional one in which we’re told Parcival failed by not asking the question?
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August 24, 2021 at 9:09 pm #6098
Well, not quite. What I’d like to get across here is that there’s not a one-size-fits-all answer. The nature that Ted and Parcival both seem to share is that of openness, of asking questions. Why does Parcival fail when he fights his nature, yet Ted follows his nature and still fails? The Grail King is not one man, and the Wasteland is complex, even if the solution itself is simple. In writing this piece, I began thinking of Ted as an evolution of Parcival: perhaps he did learn why it was important to follow his gut instinct earlier, before we met him, which leads to him believing he can save Rebecca the same way. What Ted learns is that there isn’t one solution to healing others, and there’s a certain amount of responsibility they have to take on themselves. How could Parcival, from his perspective, have known a simple question would heal the Fisher King? You live, you learn, and hopefully you get the change to get up and try again.
"...Myths, so to say, are public dreams; dreams are private myths."
– Joseph Campbell, Myths to Live By
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August 24, 2021 at 9:19 pm #6099
I think I get what you’re saying, @drewie. Let me know if I’m off base.
You’re right about the world being unforgiving; most people don’t get a second shot at the Grail Castle. There is a cost to choosing kindness over competition, and we get the chance to make that choice over and over every day. I don’t expect that being tender means being naive; Ted said to “be like the goldfish” and forget past hurt, which feels naive. He also says to “be curious, not judgmental,” and “do the right-est thing,” which are both much closer sentiments to the one I hope readers take away from this essay. There are lots of reasons, situational and institutional, that allow Ted to come out ahead. If all of us bent a bit more and had that same compassion for ourselves and others, we may be surprised what would happen.
To be blunt, “nice guys” don’t finish last because they’re nice, but because it’s a quality that isn’t valued in our society as much as competitiveness, power, and rugged individualism. (Note: this is a totally different conversation if we talk about “nice guys” in the romantic sphere, so please take all of the above as regarding more concrete endeavors! I’m talking specifically of career here, based on what we see of Ted and Parcival’s aspirations.)
"...Myths, so to say, are public dreams; dreams are private myths."
– Joseph Campbell, Myths to Live By-
August 25, 2021 at 3:29 pm #6106
Yeah I think you get it. You do raise some interesting questions in your reply though.
It is true that indirectly I did say that Ted is naive, ofcourse Ted being the ideal not a real person I can afford to say that. I am under the impression that this guy will be a tragic figure till the end of the show, wait for it.
And I do cringe a bit when I hear the words non-judgmental and right-est in the same sentence. After all when we indulge in what is right and wrong we do become judgmental. And what is right and what is wrong to begin with and who will be the judge of that (sorry for the pun), well when we don’t think in terms of right or wrong, then certainly that feels non-judgmental. What I am trying to say is they seem antithetical to me.
But before I continue to what extend you are referring when you talk about “Toxic masculinity” in your initial reply in this conversation and I also wonder what do you think is the reason for this toxic masculinity?
The problem as I see it, is how each one of us perceives niceness. I have several examples in my life where people I thought to be mean and “toxic” actually were helping me, making me stronger, in the long run. Yet at the time I perceived them as mean, perhaps an understatement.
That being said I do agree with you and the qualities you try to promote being open, trusting and forgiving and never take anything personally, its a risk but worth it.
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August 25, 2021 at 3:46 pm #6107
Well, I can’t deny that Ted has some real cringe-y turns of phrase! He’s a comedic character, after all, definitely a caricature of the type of person we might admire in real life. Either way, to your point around judgment: Ted isn’t judging people, but situations. Judgement is very important, as in use-your-best. Ted encourages us to reserve your judgement of people, and assume good will when possible. (When not possible, completely hustle them at darts.)
You bring up a great point around kindness and strength, and if I had more space in my piece I would have loved to compare the kindness of Ted with the kindness of a totally different character: Roy Kent.
Roy is a great example of a character who is kind but not nice. He’s angry, he’s guarded, but as the captain of the team, he also looks out for his players – even the kit man, Nathan, who’s being bullied by other players. He’s furious Ted isn’t handling the situation, and so stands up to Jamie (the perfect example of this toxicity I’m talking about) to get the team to fall in line.
A lot of toxicity is based in fear. Jamie reveals he’s competitive and aggressive because his father literally beat these qualities into him, telling him it’s the only way to be a man. This doesn’t only hurt Jamie as an individual, but the entire team suffers when he puts his ego first. In fact, when he’s playing for Manchester (Man City! Fantastic pun there) and does pass the ball to a teammate, it results in a goal and Man City taking the game. Ted comes to congratulate him (an honorable thing to do after his team has lost) and sees Jamie being berated by his father for passing the ball – even though it won his team the match.
What’s the risk inherent in passing the ball? Why be so concerned about “looking weak”? What’s the fear here? The toxic masculine must remain on top, untouchable, or risk falling lower in the pecking order and being pecked themselves, even if this isn’t a risk in their environment.
"...Myths, so to say, are public dreams; dreams are private myths."
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August 26, 2021 at 4:21 am #6113
Gabrielle its a risk because when you open up, when you trust people, people tend to abuse that and push you around. It is just a fact especially in the workplace that you have to show your teeth or you wont get any respect.
And you can see it in the Ted Lasso story too, a bitterness, a meanness at the centre of it for masculinity. (Men need women, women dont need men, etc etc)
Which brings me to Roy.
You seem to imply that its ok to be aggressive if you are gonna stand for ideals that seem to fit our morality? Because that is what Roy does, starts a fight to defend Nathan because he doesn’t like seeing him being bullied. If I was Nathan I would be insulted by this to be quite honest with people for not believing I could handle the situation.
I guess being aggressive has its uses after all.
I dont think its kindness, compassion that will change what you call toxic masculinity if it needs changing at all, I think it will take much more than. The problem with Lasso and Parsival is that they will never be Kings because they never have to make the hard decisions.
Anyways, have a lovely day all.
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August 26, 2021 at 2:54 pm #6114
You’re absolutely right. We can do only what’s in our power to be more open, more compassionate, but we still need to protect ourselves. Think of the scene where Ted beats Rupert at darts to keep him from the box for the season: Ted never raises his voice. He never makes ad hominem attacks. He even has the humility and intelligence to let Rupert think he’s winning. This is a great example of how Ted uses his power of observation — much like we were discussing in another comment comparing him to the Agatha Christie Detective, Hercule Poirot — to protect himself and others without being fueled by fear.
Roy is fueled by anger, certainly, but he’s curious. Anger alone isn’t toxic; in fact, I would say it’s vital to challenging systems of oppression. He isn’t driven by fear. You can feel whatever you’d like, but being measured in your response it what achieves results.
Thank you for your contributions to this conversation! I’m glad to be able to talk through this outside the bounds of what a 1k word essay allows.
"...Myths, so to say, are public dreams; dreams are private myths."
– Joseph Campbell, Myths to Live By
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August 24, 2021 at 9:41 pm #6101
Gabrielle; thank you for your inspiring MythBlast and added follow up with Stephen and everyone. I’ve been thinking about it for several days now and I must admit I’m a little awed about saying anything that would do it justice. From my view male persona in our culture so often presents a very distinctly dominating and controlling side without the very virtues you stressed in your piece; and those virtues loom very large in my world. Kindness, thoughtfulness, compassion, and especially gentleness are so often left out of the male imprinting of young boys who must learn to become men. In a complex modern world which often is so very unforgiving when those same attributes are interpreted as weakness instead of respect in my opinion is one of the reasons I think both men and boys in our society are in crisis. Youth crime is skyrocketing; men’s behavior in many instances within public discourse displays the exact barbaric opposite; and the sensibility that any kind of chivalric code for protecting the weak these attributes once represented concerning manners and respect of others seems to more and more be taken out of some kind of context of fairy tale romances for children instead of from the actual adult spiritual and emotional DNA of mankind’s mythical heritage. Perhaps a little strong for an opening expression of why your essay struck me so profoundly; so if I may I’ll attempt to offer a few examples that I hope might be helpful in my defense.
When I think of male heroic qualities within today’s complex world at the top of my list is the single parent lawyer: (Atticus Finch) in: “To Kill a Mocking Bird”; I think Lt. John Dunbar’s transformation into the Sioux warrior named “Dances with Wolves qualifies but the Indian is the hero here and not the soldier. Three different Robin Williams portrayals come next; #1 is English Teacher John Keating in the Dead Poets Society; #2 is Robin’s portrayal of the mental breakdown of Parry in the Fisher King and the transformation of Jack Lucas played by Jeff Bridges, (each rescuing each other); and #3 is his role as therapist: Sean McGuire, in treating an angry gifted young male from the scarring of early childhood abuse and the mentoring of him into adulthood in: “Good Will Hunting”.
Each of these characters in my humble opinion evoke these important qualities for role models because they represent many of the same features you spoke about but within different contexts. And these films I think have a great deal to do with Joseph’s Hero theme about inner realizations and transformation.
In today’s Covid world I think because of the extreme anxiety surrounding everyday existence that’s being affected by this deadly and unpredictable virus it’s become much more difficult think in terms of normalcy and timeless virtues because everything is so uncertain. And you can add Climate Change and Global Warming as two more along with an extremely volatile political atmosphere as well. And yes; I think it is important to note that one could say: (the world spins); and there has always been difficulties that heroic qualities are called for.
But here is what I’m humbly attempting to point out. The themes you addressed could not be more important for the times in which we are living because so much more complexity has been added to what the hero will be called on to address. And a lot of the same conditions listed in the earlier “rule books” no longer apply. (Men can’t just be “tough” guys any more!)
Most animals; depending which ones and what the circumstances are; will respond to kindness and gentleness. Trust is something that’s earned and it’s instinctual. Read any newspaper or newsfeed on the internet and you most often will see all kinds of stories about people who no longer know how to talk to each other; or that some kind of violent act has been committed because of bad male dominant behavior. Machoism may be a reality in some cultures; but it is a dinosaur with a limited life span if we as a species are to survive in a future globally interdependent society.
For instance the debate between literalized religion and scientific fact is now settled if you believe that myths are Fairy Tales only for children – (not) life vivifying metaphors that can help point the way out of one’s psychosis and bring depth and meaning to a universe that has no meaning. As Joseph might say: “Life just is and you are to bring the meaning to it”; (not the thou-shalt system promoted by some concretized personal deity up in the sky).
Well; that’s one of the views Joseph articulated.) But to me Joseph’s main point was that Myths are metaphors and symbols as tools to help point the way out of man’s mental and spiritual dilemmas, they are not subservient rules to be governed by; and these old stories that are causing global conflicts have to be re-interpreted or retooled or looked at in a different way you might say to have modern relevance. “There is no God but mine” will no longer work in a technologically informed new world; and when man walked on the moon the argument surrounding Genesis was settled.
So I hope you’ll forgive my gushing praise for your essay for I just can’t say enough about how important I think these male features are in the coming times ahead; and how eloquently you expressed them in relation to Joseph’s themes. I so very much hope to see more of your participation in these forums in the coming weeks ahead. And I thank you for this piece.
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August 26, 2021 at 1:06 am #6112
@Jamesn, I’m so sorry, I thought I replied to you but it looks like I didn’t! Thank you so much for your kind comments, and absolutely agree with your mentions of Atticus Finch and the other excellent film/books. There are some fantastic examples of masculinity that doesn’t hinge on power and control above all else, but on humility and wonder. It shouldn’t be a performance, though, or one more thing for us to live up to; rather it’s a stripping away of the barriers that keep us from being these things naturally. I do believe people are naturally good. I know that’s not universal, but that’s my impression after working with children for many years
"...Myths, so to say, are public dreams; dreams are private myths."
– Joseph Campbell, Myths to Live By
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August 24, 2021 at 11:12 pm #6103
To Gabrielle: Yes Thank God for Mothers! Cannot help it I’m a little drawn to those “synchronous moments!” A breeze of fresh air letting those glimmers of transcendence and hints of mystery back into mind and heart.
I think I do understand what you were saying about Ted Lasso relying too much upon his nature (now that I’ve started watching the series!)In some ways it’s not unlike Inspector Closeau well minus the physical bumbles…Ted’s natural state may come off “as too much” or “over the top.”
His constant talking might cross personal boundaries not everyone likes chatter or easy familiarity.
As for the wrong question I can see that…too…it’s a case where the answer is obvious (not profound, or mysterious) the answer is KNOWN so asking the question is Rubbing salt in the wound. The question must remain silent to be kind. And Ted sort of bumbles along. But so far at least as far as I am in the show…his resilience (and learning as he goes) that’s inspiring. And yes the kindness for sure!
You say Rebecca heals herself so Lasso is not responsible.
Though I wonder after having read another myth blast on Reflection if there is another side to the Ted Lasso coin? You imagine Lasso as the “Parcival” in his own quest…we see from his eyes and journey as well as watching the others around him.
BUT what if in inverse the story is viewed with others at the center such as Rebecca’s story? Etc?
If so can Ted Lasso represent something (someone) symbolic to them? The image of the “Holy Fool,” comes to mind. Of course the fool is going to make mistakes and bumbles and ask the wrong questions but in Native/Indigenous societies as well as others…sometimes the trickster becomes the Teacher.In quests there is often a figure who represents a call to adventure but perhaps Lasso in guise of “the Holy Fool,” or “teacher” is coming to “bring a Call to Awareness? Instead? Not as a “controlling guru,” because as “the holy fool,” he is not fully aware himself…yet remains determined.
So yes Lasso is not responsible for Healing them BUT he brings the “horn” the “call” that “wakes…” which allows the other characters to re-tune with themselves. It’s a “challenge” but each character has to decide what to with “that challenge.” And so THEN the Healing is UP to them not Lasso. But they had to “wake” or “hear” that call first. It still feels he has influence in his interactions and through his compassion but he is not directly Healing them. More like he is removing Obstacles from the path which allows the other characters like Rebecca to finally begin Healing themselves.Back to Closeau: I feel something very similar in this but more especially the new one with Steve Martin. (I enjoy Peter Sellers too) But the 1st Martin Pink Panther adds that extra touch of kindness even though his bumbles are risky for those around him…and he seems to get everything wrong. He is a duck out of water but by the end his determination proves through.
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August 25, 2021 at 3:57 pm #6108
I love your parallel to Inspector Clouseau, who was largely inspired by one of my very favorite fictional characters, Agatha Christie’s Hercule Poirot. Talk about reserving judgment! Things are not always what they seem, and you must keep an open mind to get to the truth.
You’ve really touched on something I’ve been thinking about lately with de-centering the story from Ted to any of the other characters, especially female characters. Maybe one day I’ll be able to write a piece about Rebecca and Keeley, a fascinating dynamic that packs a major punch in understanding the feminine — but also, vitally, the masculine as it presents in someone outside of the male characters. You’re quite right in calling Ted the Call. It was difficult for me to see how Ted himself changed over the course of the first season, rather he was a catalyst for change in others. I’m about to start season 2, and I expect to see some development there for him.
"...Myths, so to say, are public dreams; dreams are private myths."
– Joseph Campbell, Myths to Live By-
March 14, 2022 at 11:48 pm #6928
WARNING: There Be Spoilers Here!
In late January I purchased a new iPhone, which included three free months of Apple TV – so just last week, nearly six months after this conversation started, I finally completed Season One of Ted Lasso, and now I get what everyone was talking about! (As my old therapist used to say, “Better latent than never!”).
So much I would love to respond to, including thoughts on toxic masculinity, or the difference between “doing the rightest thing” (which relates to my choices and my behavior) and being judgmental (which, in the context it’s used here, relates to drawing conclusions as to the motivations, actions, and behavior of another).
However, no idea if anyone is still listening, or still interested (and, even though I’m caught up to where everyone else was in August, I imagine most have now completed Season 2, which may well change the calculus).
Nevertheless, thought I might as well bump this up to the top of the MythBlast queue by sharing a thought or two, and see if anyone else, whether or not they participated in the initial discussion, might have something to add.
Instead of tackling everything, I figured I’d focus on this response from Gabrielle, replying to Sunbug:
You’ve really touched on something I’ve been thinking about lately with de-centering the story from Ted to any of the other characters, especially female characters. Maybe one day I’ll be able to write a piece about Rebecca and Keeley, a fascinating dynamic that packs a major punch in understanding the feminine — but also, vitally, the masculine as it presents in someone outside of the male characters. You’re quite right in calling Ted the Call. It was difficult for me to see how Ted himself changed over the course of the first season, rather he was a catalyst for change in others. I’m about to start season 2, and I expect to see some development there for him.”
I love Keeley’s character! I confess I initially wrote her off as shallow, superficial, and sex-obsessed; definitely took a few episodes to realize she is the most self-aware character in the series (love how she describes herself to Rebecca: “I’m famous for being almost-famous”), in many ways the moral center of the show. How Rebecca responds to Keeley’s friendship, long before the team owner’s attitude toward the club franchise itself changes, is what first clued me in to Rebecca’s yearnings, and her capacity for change. The friendship between these women is a true delight, far beyond the all-too-common television stereotype.
In many ways I see Keeley and Ted as kindred spirits – unassuming, non-judgmental, and authentic. Both bring to mind one of my favorite Campbell quotes:
The influence of a vital person vitalizes, there’s no doubt about it. The world without spirit is a wasteland. People have the notion of saving the world by shifting things around, changing the rules, and whos on top, and so forth. No, no! Any world is a valid world if it’s alive. The thing to do is to bring life to it, and the only way to do that is to find in your own case where the life is and become alive yourself.” (Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers, 149)
I agree, Gabrielle – the relationship between Keeley and Rebecca is worth a thread all its own, especially in how they relate to the masculine.
What else catches my attention here is the observation that it’s difficult “to see how Ted himself changed over the course of the first season.”
I have a different take on that. Yes, he’s still the same affable Ted Lasso at the end of the season as at the start, but he does undergo a dramatic, life-altering transformation, one accompanied by its own death-and-rebirth experience (that panic attack at the karaoke bar in Liverpool in Episode 7, followed by Sassy’s somewhat unexpected, very intimate visit to his motel room).
Though it’s not exactly front and center, Ted’s marriage has been falling apart. No one is the villain here, though his wife, Michelle, does seem to find Ted’s unrelenting positive thinking cloying. Her unhappiness provides his Call to adventure; Ted would not have taken this coaching position if he hadn’t thought the space it provided might somehow help heal his marriage.
Two things come to mind as a result. One is that not every woman is seeking Ted Lasso’s brand of sensitive, caring, vulnerable masculinity (something I bumped up against more than once in my single years, much as I would have wished it otherwise).
Though Ted seriously wants to hold onto his marriage (in many ways, that’s how he defines himself), something is definitely missing: Ted is not a whole person. His obsession with hanging on to the marriage through thick and thin ignores the needs of the person he loves, or believes he loves (indeed, the person he loves and who loved him no longer exists). All the drama in the locker room strikes me as secondary; the primary conflict is inside Ted (that’s my other take-away). That’s resolved, once he is able to let go what had died and become whole in himself.
Or not (I figure that’s what the second season explores).
Of course, that’s just my perception. [Actual user experience may vary]
Gabrielle – thank you for essay and the ensuing conversation. I seriously doubt I would have been moved to binge this series were it not for your thought-provoking analysis.
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March 17, 2022 at 1:39 pm #6946
Stephen, I’m so happy you’ve come back to this one! I love that Ted Lasso is still on our minds months later.
I did want to touch on Ted’s static first season: specifically, I want to draw a distinction between Ted himself changing and Ted’s full character being revealed to the audience. I will admit he gives way to change in accepting his divorce, but most of the revelations of the episode are actually just aspects of the character that were hidden from the audience until now: the panic attacks, the realization (or proof) that not everyone loves Ted’s endless positivity. Ted’s acceptance of his divorce is a sort of quest acceptance — a first step on the road to transformation, to being open to transformation.
It was a great setup for things to come. Maybe I’ll write a follow-up now that most have us seem to have seen Season 2. A LOT going on there to chew on!
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March 17, 2022 at 5:47 pm #6949
Definitely looking forward to diving in to the second season and exploring Ted’s depths – hard to be so positive without one hell of an unexplored shadow (that may have to wait a few weeks – so many balls in the fire and irons in the air, which is kind of how it feels, right now – and, short as each episode is, it’s impossible to watch just one at a time).
Ted’s mini life-and-rebirth experience in Liverpool the first season (which, as you note, just hints at what is to come) helps crystallize a thought that’s been bouncing around the edges of my conscious awareness for some time:
Campbell, in Pathways to Bliss, observes that he sees a rewarding life as series of hero journeys, one after another, which rings true for me. But I’ve also noticed that embedded within the trajectory of the hero’s journey, at least in my experience, are lots of “little” hero’s journeys. I like that way of re-imagining it, which for me suggests a resonance between the fractal nature of myth, and of the cosmos at large.
Love the idea of you writing a follow-up, whenever you get around to it, not that I’m in any rush (considering I’m lagging a season behind everyone else).
Stephen Gerringer
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August 24, 2021 at 11:57 pm #6104
I think I understand the frustrations expressed by others here as well.
It reminds me of your reference to the kindness of Gawain.
Thoreau came to mind but the belief in the possibility of “wilderness poets,” those “individuals,” seems to become lost in the weeds…Not everyone has the time, space to lose themselves and regain themselves going “into the forest.”
It can be a struggle and a balance…there are the urban forests to consider…appointments, deadlines, expectations etc.The power fight competition becomes a fight for survival (in life) except for the top gamesters. And the stress is high.
I can feel a Campbell metaphor about Ladders… but going to let that one go.
Cause if I’m off the Mark just proves I might be blundering out of my territory too! Please forgive me if I am! I wish the best for everyone!
*care!*The “rule book” is a curious thing.
yes I can see that that would changejust as in life, learning opens new horizons, different thoughts and new discoveries.
My question would be if that is the slightly more concrete yet metaphorical rule books of “life?”
Or the “Universal rule book which seems to eternally have the same deeply rooted themes?Returning back to Compassion?
My sense is that logically it might be easier to prefer a Galahad for his “sensible purity.”Yet Parcival and Gawain are eclipsed by the “worthiness” of Galahad and the shenanigans of Lancelot.
It becomes uncomfortable if Parcival asks a question based on the equivalent of “intuition.”
It works for him the 2nd time.
But “rationality,” intellectually would seem to be the better game plan. Or maybe less uncomfortable than P going against “team code.”
Yet over and over that seems to be the challenge of these myths.
And trusting “gut instinct,” that’s not easy or to be taken lightly.
I’m still impressed by Lasso’s resilience but need to see the rest of show.
That call of the myths, bards and mystics…to go within and “heal thyself” first that’s hard too.
….Even if the “stories” try to show a Universal “connection,” that transcends.Did Thoreau or Black Elk feel that connection with every thing? (And everyone?) Even in individual moments?
We become restless without action, “positive doing,” so that’s difficult.
And I agree there can be a cognitive dissonance in recognizing and feeling the eternal mythic themes yet looking at them logically from present time.
We long for them but maybe have lost trust in the kindness possibility of a Gawain…that it no longer fits modern times.
Our times really seem to define all our journeys? And definition and words can have “power,” as “well as define what it is.”Is the challenge to move, think through Fear…(being aware of it/acknowledging it) rather than “from fear?” (Where it might become paralyzing? Or overwhelming?)
The latter seems like the block in conversations in the world “as is.”
Staying in the eye of the storm for peace and clarity is not easy for anyone!! Especially hearing all the howling winds.
But who knows how each “ Parcival” will approach the journey?
To go back to Compassion as an eternal trait? That is hard in all the sorrows and “psychos” of the world.
It’s definitely not a “psycho” trait…But we still long for it to be a Human one.
What stands out with Parcival and Ted to me (even if Ted blunders about) is the spontaneity of “Compassion.”I love that!
That’s sort of what I miss..
Where Compassion is a “happening” felt in the heart and coming straight from heart (bodhisattva?)
rather than an intellectual decision alone.And I love Jamesn examples of heroes/characters: starting with Atticus Finch and on…yes, yes,yes! 🙂
Ok enough! I feel like Don Quixote chasing wil o the wisp tangents.
Hope everyone finds their path and right action…that resonates for them:-)
Not my business as not my journey!
So I’m off before blundering along any more.
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August 25, 2021 at 1:57 am #6105
Such wonderful additional posts on this Sunbug; and if I may be permitted to add; yes some very good points about the individual reality and how one must learn how to integrate these themes that Gabrielle has highlighted into whatever life setting they find themselves in; and yes; I think each one is going to be different and the rule books of various religions or spiritual value systems are no longer to be taken literally because the modern individual is called to make up their own way as they go. I especially liked your reference to Don Quixote because Joseph was asked by Bill Moyers about him in the “Power of Myth” and he replied that the world of “Chivalry” had disappeared and Cervantes was writing about a loss of a moral code because a more industrialized kind of world had taken it’s place. And Quixote was seduced from reality by reading all these works about knighthood and saving damsels and went on his mentally delusional imaginary quest to bring it back. “But” Joseph also illuminates the understanding that he saved his own adventure for himself and by doing so brought back the jewel that refreshed the wasteland by the life he led; (metaphorically speaking of course). In other words this crazy old man attacking windmills riding an old nag with an imaginary squire; (who mainly has to keep him out of trouble); becomes a model in his own demented way for a virtuous life of character that has inspired generations for hundreds of years, (There is definitely a lesson I think in modern terms for finding the joyful sorrow/sorrowful joy for some that Joseph talks about in participating in the life of others to find the meaning of your own life.)
The most powerful example to me was the story Joseph recalled about the policeman who recognized when a young man was about to jump off a bridge in Hawaii to commit suicide when he grabbed him by the ankles as he jumped just as he was about to go over. He himself was being pulled down toward his own death but would not let go. His partner arrived just in the nick of time to help pull them both up to safety. When he was later asked why didn’t let go his answer was: “if I had let go I wouldn’t have been able to live another day of my life”. How come? Joseph recounts. “His whole life including his thoughts and dreams for his future; his responsibilities to his job and his family were at stake and yet he would not let go. Joseph said: “this is one pointed meditation that breaks through our normal vision of reality to the metaphysical realization: that you and the other (are one).”
That one still puts a lump in my throat when I think about it because we are now living in a time when so many things around us that speak of these kinds humanity based value systems are what bring water to the parched wasteland instead of the commercialistic goals that attempt to define us by saying you are what you have; instead of the person who you are inside; what your character is; how you treat people and the values you live for. At any rate I’m starting to ramble but before I stop I’ll mention something I saw during Christmas this year that reminded me of Cervantes and these value systems I was just mentioning.
I was flipping through the TV channels and came across two movies at practically the same moment. One was: “It’s a Wonderful Life”; and the other was a Terry Gilliam remake of Don Quixote in a modern day setting. Adam Driver; yes, from Star Wars; plays a movie maker who had produced an scripted version of the book 10 years earlier for commercial purposes and found himself back near the same village where the character who played Quixote had been a shoemaker had lived and went to see if he was still around. Well it turns out this person had fallen victim to the very same mental state and thought he himself had become Don Quixote called by God to save the world by restoring the “Lost Age of Chivalry”. Yes, a whole new series of misadventures occurs and his messaged realization again stirs within the human heart that we are all Don Quixote trying to bring to life what is precious and worth living for to restore a wasteland that has somehow lost it’s meaning and purpose.
Okay; now I really will stop since this is such a great topic and everyone is bringing such wonderful insights and give someone else a chance to chime in. Thanks for listening.
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Now I don’t want to wander too far off from Gabrielle’s topic focus concerning the virtues and attributes of gentleness vs more dominate male behavior but often so much of what determines a moral code in a culture comes from a religious interpretation of what God wants. So I want to add a short little addendum that includes a very short clip from the foundation YouTube channel where Joseph Campbell describes the laws; (aka. the spiritual rule books of a given society); we were just discussing and the difference between a concretized spiritual interpretation of religion and a metaphorical one. In many ways his description of the difference illustrates the problem dealing with how some of the religious conflicts taking place across the planet; (like in the Middle East for example); are concerned with which version different people think is more spiritually correct or relevant and should be in control of governments and peoples lives. One can remember “The Crusades” as an example in some ways; but the real problem I think revolves around the idea of what God wants; and whether or not that God is a fact or is actually a metaphor for spiritual realization. (Also having not viewed the Ted Lasso film Gabrielle referred to I certainly don’t feel qualified to include any thoughts about something I have not seen; so please accept my apologies on that.)
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August 26, 2021 at 12:39 am #6111
I would like to keep this brief since I seem to have the problem of Frost’s Yellow Wood and road leading to road.
Especially with all the wonderful contributions as Jamesn said.
No apologies James…love what you added. And I often think of that story Joe Campbell told of the policeman who risked his life to save the man on the bridge. Very powerful. That’s it to a T! Spontaneous compassion in action! Beautiful…
Have nothing to add to that!And I have a painting my Mother made of Don Quixote. So will hop off this before getting stuck on a windmill blade.
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August 27, 2021 at 3:27 pm #6118
Thank you for your article Gabrielle. There are many things that draw me to it. You tackle some wonderful ideas here. I would like to touch upon some of them.
First of all, I would like to introduce myself to the group. My name is Matt and I work with young adult men on parole in a transition home. We have paused the majority of our groups when covid rolled through, but prior we used tackle subjects on masculinity, toxic masculinity, etc. A wonderful book called “He: Understanding Masculine Psychology” by Robert A. Johnson, Jungian psychologist, tackles this very myth: Parcifal and the Grail King. I highly recommend it for anyone with a interest in this subject. When I was attempting to pull together subject matter to teach the young men I worked with about masculinity this was probably the main book I drew inspiration from.
I share your sentiments on the show and the character. There is a redeeming quality of Mr. Lasso that does resonate with folks. There is a trojan horse like quality to his apparent naiveté. It’s disarming. In ‘He”, he says Parcifal means “innocent fool”. But that it also means “he who draws the opposites together”. Ted Lasso is the antithesis to the alpha male coach he replaces; the antithesis to Rebecca’s philandering ex-husband. And you are right: there is a power in tenderness. “Now there is in Arthur’s Court a damsel who has not smiled nor laughed in six years. The legend in the Court is that when the best knight in the world appears, the damsel who has not smiled for six years will burst into laughter. The instant this damsel sees Parcifal, she bursts into laughter and joy.”
It reminds me of my favorite beatitude: those pure of heart shall see the face of God. (Matthew 5:8) I am 44 now (almost 45) and I can attest to the struggle it takes to be in this state (pure of heart) as one goes on the adventure. We might even call vulnerability the state of having the heart channel be open to the suffering of the world. (By the way please check out Brené Brown’s, vulnerability researcher, podcast with Jason Sudekis (Ted Lasso) and Brendan Hunt (Coach Beard): https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-with-jason-sudeikis-brendan-hunt-on-ted-lasso/). Like the Fisher King, this also might be the easiest way to be wounded. An open heart can easily be trampled on in the world of masculinity. Ted Lasso models an integration of strength and vulnerability. I would argue that in addition to an open heart one must have good boundaries. You don’t want to be an alpha male but you don’t want to be a colloquial simp. The heart does offer the middle path. The Grail Castle and the Grail King appears when we find it. And that is our salvation. It’s how we heal the Fisher King’s wound.
The new season promises to offer new insight into the character. With the recent hire of a psychologist on the team, it is only a matter of time before Ted sits in the chair and offers us a deeper look into his personality. Consider myself lassoed!
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August 31, 2021 at 3:51 am #6153
Hello Gabrielle,
Such an inspiring and thought provoking essay. So much has been written that I’ll be brief.
Watching NAOMI OSAKA play at the US OPEN tonight, was like watching your words in action. Naomi is One uniquely strong women’s single player, yet vulnerable, kind and humble, and as you wrote, the combination of strength and vulnerability makes for unimaginable strength.
This combination on the field has brought her unmatched popularity from fans in all age groups. Such awesome emotional outpouring from her fans only made her ten times stronger in her vulnerable mode.
Wonder if NAOMI’S coaches read your insightful words too?
Thanks for your marvelous essay.
PS: In athletics and elsewhere too, I think strength must precede vulnerability otherwise the athlete would be wiped out in no time.
Shaahayda
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March 17, 2022 at 1:19 pm #6945
Stephen,
Yes I am still thinking about Ted Lasso and how much I enjoyed it! Thanks to Gabrielle started watching it. Made me smile.
I did see both seasons but without giving anything away…Ted’s “dark night of the soul,” is tied in to more of his own personal back history. After that is revealed it makes sense and for me as a watcher, I felt even more compassion towards Ted. But that’s all I will say on that.Unless that was partly revealed at the end of season one? Trying to remember?
There was only one episode in season two where I felt less connected. It is one where “Beardy” has his own adventure, which veers off on a dream and hallucination-like tangent from everything else. And it felt to me more like an “experimentation” than having anything to do with furthering the plot.
However that being said…there were reviews which compared it to Dante…so that does take it back into another type of mythic realm…underworld trip and all.
But I suppose it is up to each viewer to make-up their own minds on that.
I only included this spoiler because it felt like a non-sequiter to the plot.It is like Dante meets All That Jazz with the Bob Fosse “dream/illusion/hallucination sequence” where the Viewer is not sure what is real and what is dream.
But other than that, still loved season two. So many characters and beautiful nuances and some surprising turns.
I agree with you about Keeley. She really grew on me. I found myself smiling and crying through both seasons of Ted Lasso. Something about it just felt deeply good. We need more of that…and I do not mean just the veneer of positive thinking. This felt deeper.
I felt this way too after seeing, “Get Back.” The parts where there were strife or turmoil within the band seemed small to the overall picture. And it just proved the Beatles were human…real and human…and to be real and human is magic. In its own way. I smiled a lot watching that as well.
Guess I better sign off so I don’t accidentally leave any other spoilers for season two of Ted Lasso!
And thank you Gabrielle for the recommend!Have found a lot of nice recommendations from the JCF myth blasts and forums!
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- 7. Refrain from Sexually Explicit Posts Please do not make sexually explicit posts within these forums, unless they are absolutely germane to the discussion underway – and even in that case, please try to warn readers at the top of your post. Not all members have the same threshold when it comes to taking offense to language and pictures. NOTE: Under no circumstances will we condone the posting of links to sites that include child pornography, even inadvertently. We will request that such links be removed immediately, and will remove them ourselves if compliance is not forthcoming. Any Associate knowingly posting such links will be suspended immediately; we will forward a snapshot of the offending page, the web address and the associate’s contact information to the appropriate criminal authorities
- 8. Refrain from Self-Promotion Announcements linking to your new blog post, book, workshop, video clip, etc., will be deleted, unless they are demonstrably part of the greater conversation. The only exception is the Share-Your-Work Gallery, a subforum within The Conversation with a Thousand Faces. If you have art, poetry, writing, or links to music and other work you would like to share, do so here.
- 9. Search First If you’re thinking of starting a new topic, asking a question, etc., please take advantage of the search functionality of this forum! You can find the search field above the list of forums on the main page of the forums. Also, consider searching on the greater JCF website – this site is full of amazing resources on a wide variety of topics, all just a search away.
- 10. Report Violations If you witness or experience behavior that you feel is contrary to the letter or spirit of these guidelines, please report it rather than attacking other members. Do this by choosing the Report button (next to “Reply”) at the top of the post, and select a reason from the dropdown menu (Spam, Advertising, Harassment, or Inappropriate Content). The moderation team will be notified. Depending on the degree of bad behavior, further posts might require approval, or the user could be blocked from posting and even banned.
- 11. Private Messages Forum guidelines apply to all onsite private communications between members. Moderators do not have access to private exchanges, so if you receive messages from another member with inappropriate or hostile content, send a private message (with screenshots) to Stephen Gerringer and/or Michael Lambert.
Visit the Contact the Foundation page, select Technical Support, and fill out the contact form.
The Conversations of a Higher Order (COHO) consists of ten public forums loosely focused on a central theme. The forums are listed, with a brief description, on the COHO home page (each forum listed on that page also appears in the same order in the menu in the lefthand column – that menu stays with you as you move about the forums). This also shows who created the last post in each forum, and when.
When you visit a specific forum you will see the list of topics people have posted so far in that forum. Click on one to read that post and any replies. Feel free to add a reply if you have something to share, or just enjoy following the conversation. You can return to the COHO home page by clicking the "Home>Forums" breadcrumb at the top of the page – or move directly to a different forum by clicking on one of the listings from the forum menu in the lefthand column of the page.
If there’s anything you want to introduce – a question, an observation, or anything related to Campbell, myth, or one of his many related interests – create a topic in the forum you feel comes closest to including the subject you want to discuss. Most forums include in their description a link to a corresponding part of the website. For example, The Work of Joseph Campbell description has a link to all his published works: you can of course focus on a specific book or lecture, but also any topic related to the ideas arising out of his work is welcome in that forum.
When posting a new topic or a reply to an existing conversation, check the “Notify me of follow-up replies via email” box (conversations unfold at a leisurely pace: someone might need a few days to let what you write simmer in the back of their brain – this is how you find out someone has replied), and then click Submit. You can also click "Favorite" (top of the page on the right when reading forum threads) to be notified of all responses in a discussion.
Click on the Profile link under your user name in the upper left corner above the forum menu. Then select Edit and follow the prompts to upload an image file from your computer.
When you finish your post, before clicking the Submit button check the box at the bottom of your post that reads, “Notify me of follow-up replies via email.” You can also click on “Subscribe” (in the upper right corner of a thread) to follow the complete conversation (often a comment on someone else’s post might inspire a response from you).
We ask that when linking to web pages, please avoid posting the raw URL address in your text. Highlight the relevant text you'd like to link in your post, then select the link icon in your formatting bar above your post (immediately to the left of the picture icon, this looks like a diagonal paperclip). This opens a small field:
Paste the URL of the page you are linking to into the field provided. Then click on the gear icon to the right of that field, and check the box that says “Open link in a new tab” (so readers can see your link without having to navigate back to the forums), before clicking the green “Add Link” button.
To add an image to your post, click on the image icon in the menu at the top of your post (it's the icon on the far right):
In the Source field of the pop-up form, click on the camera icon on the far right. This should give you access to the files on your PC / laptop, or the photo library on your mobile device. Select the image, and add a brief description (e.g., "Minoan Goddess") in the appropriate field.
In the dimensions field, you only need enter the first number (240 is a good size for starters; if too small click the edit icon and increase that number). Then select OK.
Click on the name of the person you want to contact (under their avatar in a any of their posts). This link will take you to that member’s profile page. Then click on “Send a Message,” and compose.
If you witness or experience behavior that you feel is contrary to the letter or spirit of these guidelines, please report it rather than attacking other members. Do this by choosing the Report button (next to “Reply”) at the top of the post, and select a reason from the dropdown menu (Spam, Advertising, Harassment, or Inappropriate Content). The moderation team will be notified. Depending on the degree of bad behavior, further posts might require approval, or the user could be blocked from posting and even banned.
Visit the Contact the Foundation page, select Community and Social Media, and fill out the contact form.