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April 18, 2020 at 6:30 am #3214
Do you have a favorite piece of music? We had a lot of fun and interesting conversations on our music page which was actually one of the most popular on the forums. So to start our beginning of a new chapter of these conversations here is a place to share a favorite piece you’ve always liked with everyone. Many fun and enlightening dialogues came from swapping stories and background on their selections; so I will start off with one which to me always makes me think of the Hero’s Journey. John Barry’s composition of the theme from the movie: “Dances With Wolves” never fails to move me from inside with it’s sweeping panoramic orchestration of strings that conjures up the transformation of Lieutenant John Dunbar into the Lakota Sioux warrior: “Dances With Wolves”. Who’s next?
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April 18, 2020 at 6:30 am #2737
Bob Dylan – I Contain Multitudes
Did Bob Dylan encapsulate “Thou Art That” ?? I think so…
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April 18, 2020 at 8:50 pm #2738
Not only did Dylan successfully capture the sense of “Thou Art That,” but so did Walt Whitman in “Song of Myself,” from which the title of Dylan’s song is taken.
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September 6, 2020 at 5:10 pm #3887
Hi James and Everyone!
James, thank you for initiating this place for music!–where we hear the muses sing and can see the muses dance!
Here is one of my fave songs that takes me back to my 70s Peace and Flower Power days! 🙂
Get Together by the Youngbloods
Peace Out, 🙂
Mary Ann
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September 6, 2020 at 6:14 pm #3889
Love “Come Together,” Mary.
Here is one of my favorites – the “Playing for Change” version of the Grateful Dead’s Ripple, performed by musicians from around the world (including Jimmy Buffet and David Crosby, as well as Dead drummer Bill Kreutzmann and Jerry Garcia’s daughter Keelin, and a host of stellar musicians I did not previously know):
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September 6, 2020 at 7:19 pm #3892
Thanks Mary and Stephen; what great wonderfully relative pieces to today’s need for uplifting everyone’s spirits! “Get Together” was definitely the: “Clarion Call” of the (Peace and Love Movement; remember: “Woodstock?”) of the 1960’s. And this stirring collaboration of: “Playing for Change” is an inspiring example for the Boomers “passing of the torch” to the next generation to pick it up and carry it on.
In times like this when the Pandemic speaks of darkness, hurt, doubt, and sorrow we need these songs of hope and transcendence to help inspire us to keep our spirits up and help one another so we can move forward! Well done indeed!
(Al; sorry I missed you before. I’ll look forward to hearing more of your insights like what we shared back on the old forums.)
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September 6, 2020 at 10:51 pm #3893
That is so cool, Stephen! I love the song and love it that I can hear and see people performing this version from all over the world! It sure does sing for change, for peace and love everywhere, and for people everywhere to come together! It made me smile the whole way through! And it was also so heartwarming at the end when I saw the dedication to Jerry Garcia! Thanks so much for sharing this!
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September 6, 2020 at 10:59 pm #3894
I wish I could remember Woodstock but I was a bit too young to go and my parents didn’t go (they were older than the Woodstock crowd) so I missed out. I have watched a lot of filmed performances of it though and a lot of scenes in the audience and of all the cars lined up to get in to Woodstock. Oh the ol’ Joni Mitchell song Woodstock, that is a good one too! And I loved the Dances with Wolves music! “Sweeping panoramic orchestration of strings” is a great way that you have described it. Thank you for sharing it!
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September 6, 2020 at 11:06 pm #3895
Hi aloberhoulser!
Dylan sure was a great storyteller and poet. I love the line, “Drink to the truth.” I finally got to see him in concert in the 1990s.
Blessings,
Mary Ann
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September 6, 2020 at 11:12 pm #3896
P.S. Adding to my Get Together song post: I figured to go ahead and use the smiley face emoticon here since Smiley Face stickers went along with the Peace signs and Flower Power signs of the 60’s and 70’s 🙂
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September 6, 2020 at 11:39 pm #3897
Thank you Mary and Stephen for reawakening this thread. I want to add a clip that for me in many ways represents so many of the issues of uncertainty we are facing now. This is the first performance of this group that has since grown and thrived and to me symbolizes humanity and hope. There are plenty more YouTube performances including an “unbelievable” documentary that was done; but because of the virus pandemic like everyone else they have been forced to suspend activity. They are the best part of all of us; and never fail to inspire me!
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September 7, 2020 at 12:08 am #3898
I switched this out from my earlier entry because this is not a documentary page; (sorry about that). Mary; I love Joni Mitchell; especially her album called: “Mingus”; which I thought was a true breakthrough collaboration for the time. The musicians were some of the top jazz players of the day; and Charles Mingus was one of the great jazz composers of his time. It should be noted she contributed some of the lyrics to the below: “Pork Pie Hat”; as he personally chose her to work on what was to be his last project and died shortly after it was released in 1979. Initially; Joni’s regular fans were not entirely pleased with this work since this was not the folk style artist they were use to; but she was absolutely fearless in whatever she did; and this work was proof. This was not one of her more well known popular marketed projects; and the material was technically extremely challenging; but she was definitely up to the task. (This particular live version of one of the songs was about the great jazz sax player Lester Young.)
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September 8, 2020 at 7:41 pm #3913
Although I’m certainly no authority on classical music I’ve always enjoyed many of the “Impressionist” pieces. This is one of my favorites by Claude Debussy called “Beau Soir” – beautiful evening. Joshua Bell brings a passion and sensuality to this piece that takes me to place that heals my soul when I feel world weary and need to be reminded of the beauty in life when I am tired and feeling low.
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September 11, 2020 at 1:11 am #3929
Hello ,
Wanted to start in Ur songs of Gilgamesh move on to Om language Birdsong Hindu chants touch on the Pythagorean’s Music of the spheres Psalms of David move on to Gregorian chants Mozart’s Flute (Pan) Miles Davis Kinda Blue Coltrane Giant Steps Zeppelin’s Immigration Song the sound tracks of Sid Meier …
found this
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September 11, 2020 at 1:14 am #3930
Hello,
Can’t go wrong with Dali Disney Floyd conflation !!!
An homage to the Anima of the Camp-bell Foundation …
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September 11, 2020 at 2:50 am #3931
Robert; those were just outstanding pieces! The first was just stunning in the breadth of it’s historical timeline; and the second was mesmerizing in it’s visual context. Joseph really liked Salvador Dali a lot; and most of us grew up on Disney; but I have to admit I was a bit surprised about Pink Floyd being included with that; but it certainly works! (Glad to have your input on this thread; keep them coming!)
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September 11, 2020 at 1:06 pm #3932
Thank you James ,
thought this might be enjoyed . There is great animation of Howl on YouTube. Well worth the watch . To many segments to post here and it gets a bit risqué !!! Ohh moloch …
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September 20, 2020 at 8:25 pm #3970
It is September and Autumn is upon us turning the leaves to gold and the air is now turning crisper with the promise of Winter to follow. Fall is a beautiful and reflective time for me revealing nature’s wonder with the birds migration and the seasons cycle of change of which we all are a part. The exquisite version of this song below has a great back story but I will wait till after I post it:
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September 20, 2020 at 10:16 pm #3974
The revelation was in the summer of 1988, as a young man of 25 curious how the original would sound compared with the synthersized reproduction on the radio. Daphnis at Chloé, by Maurice Ravel, just after the Nocturne (, Interlude) and Danse Guerrière: Lever du Jour. Not only the opening of the day, the resurrection of life out sleep and slumber, but rebirth of the conciousness. A few weeks later, with this music in my head replaying over and over, I invited a lovely young lady to witness sundawn on the edge of the world. She asked me to conquer the world with her, but the echos of this grieving memory are like the thunder from ocean clouds afar, stirring the fallen leaves wherever I walk. Yet, when replaying, I wander through time, invisible dancing.
Edit: the very spot is some 50 meters behind my avatar.
Time is a reciprocal dimension: t'=t*√(1-V²/C²)
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September 21, 2020 at 3:53 am #3975
This is such a beautiful rendition of this song. I remember the song “Autumn Leaves” from when I was very young, my mother playing it on her stereo this time of year. I would listen to it while watching the autumn leaves fall from the maple tree out the front window of the living room. This time of year this song always enters my mind too.
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September 21, 2020 at 5:30 am #3976
Yes Mary; I love Autumn because it asks that you stop for a moment to appreciate the magic you are immersed in. The piece above was recorded live in a club in Washington DC by “Eva Cassidy” in 1996 who died of cancer shortly after never knowing she would become a phenomena on the internet. Over the years her album became the top seller on Amazon with reviewers calling her a voice of the age. “Over the Rainbow” is probably her most popular with over 17 million likes and still counting. That above piece had 10 million before the London Symphony overdubbed their arrangement; plus those stunning visuals were added as well. Her fan base and work continues on with her parents managing her copyrights. There is an amazing backstory all about this on Wikipedia.
I’m now going to add a different song about Autumn from another artist you might be familiar with; Sarah Vaughn; but the song itself has become a jazz standard with recordings by multiple artists. It always puts me in that same reflective state of mind:
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September 21, 2020 at 5:40 am #3978
Mars; why don’t you select a piece you like to add to the fun if you are a mind. All are invited here to contribute; and from your post it sounds like you remembered something very special!
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September 23, 2020 at 8:48 pm #3996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdWiRD6RhdQ
Time is a reciprocal dimension: t'=t*√(1-V²/C²)
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September 23, 2020 at 9:29 pm #3998
Mars; what an absolutely exquisite piece! This must have been quite a special moment. I am always amazed at how music is able to capture and express things for which there are no words! Thank you very much for sharing this.
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September 24, 2020 at 9:52 pm #3999
Four Cardinals of the Heart (2nd is the link above):
With the last, you hear what Odysseus longed for. To me, these four represents the four seasons: winter, spring, summer, autumn. Like our lives: darkness, living, blessing, burning. And these were the names of that lovely young lady.
Time is a reciprocal dimension: t'=t*√(1-V²/C²)
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September 25, 2020 at 5:56 am #4003
Thank you for sharing these simply magnificent pieces Mars! I can see why they were so profoundly moving to you; and Vialey Pisarenko’s performance was just breathtaking! The depth of context you provided tied everything together beautifully and I hope you will offer more of these. Many of the Impressionists are some of my favorites; Debussy and Satie in particular; but I am certainly no authority in this area.
Here is a short documentary clip you might enjoy of Eugene Atget’s photographs of Old Paris accompanied with music by Eric Satie:
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