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You’ve hit the Mother lode with your question !
From a mythopoetic perspective the Father encompasses both light and dark . Exegesis on The Lords Prayer ( Our Father whom art in Heaven ) and Darth Vader ( I am your father ) is a good place to start. Check out Iron John by Robert Bly. He helps illuminate the topic.
Benjamin comes from the Hebrew words ben (son) and yāmīn (right side or right hand). Enjoy your journey May it be a prodigal one that is fruitful in the end !!! “ Climb every mountain ford every stream” !!!
I like James Joyce found this enjoyable. “In chapter one Mulligan states, “It is quite simple. He proves by algebra that Hamlet’s grandson is Shakespeare’s grandfather and that he himself is the ghost of his own father.” !!!
Always keep in mind “The child is the father of the man” …
Bliss , B – LI – SS , is capitalized .
de mental !!!
A merging marriage of primordial opposites !!!
Once in the dear dead days beyond recall.
When on the world the mists began to fall,
Out of the dreams that rose in happy throng
Low to our hearts love sang an old sweet song
And in the dusk where fell the firelight gleam
Softly it wove itself into our dream
Just a song at twilight
When the lights are low,
And the flickering shadows
Softly come and go
Though the heart be weary,
Sad the day and long,
Still to us at twilight comes love’s old song
Comes love’s old sweet song.”
Happy Bloomsday !!!
All hail the Felix culpa !!! No sex no offspring. No offspring no problems …
And in Roman mythology the pie graph is transubstantiated into Jupiter’s ! ! ! I do believe π is the Key ! But that takes us back to the Pythagoreans …
No surprises. I’m rather eclectic and open minded adhering to mostly a modern postmodern metamodern scientific perspective. I accept that I am a product of western civilization and its Judeo Christian roots. I enjoy comparative mythological dialogue archeology anthropology among other interests. Lots of fun to brainstorm multiple streams of consciousness from multiple sources. It can be very informative entertaining and humorous !
What is time when love makes it stand still ???
Just two Jung kids ! When Astarte met El …
Stone Gold crazy !
The economy & convection of alchemy at its finest !!!
Hawkings brief history of time in a nut shell !!!
All that is temporal stone turns to abstract metaphoric gold !
all that is transcendent abstract metaphoric gold concretizes to literal stone !
as Pegasus parrots everything ! With flights of fancy … Cause poetic abstract metaphors are in our blood …
Just a little Quetzalcoatl Acapulco gold and getting stoned !!!
A serpent in one hand a Bloom in the other. Leopold is that you ?
This may take some time but !!! please Go All The Way !!!
Argos !!! Have u read Joyce ??? It’s me … Back from space to the LIbrary. A 2021 OdySSeus !!! Arrived upon a Bojack Horseman … line the axes on the bookshelf. Get my Bow and arrow !!! Hath Flaxman shed a tear?
Cue the Tele to mark us !!!
Great points and question.
Much of the conscious unconscious decision process being debated is very important. Especially now with social media and it’s understanding of neurochemical stimulation addiction and its affect on the decision making process. I think what is important to put a metric on is , impulse stimulation and control. With the advent of neuroscientific data some of the Freudian and Jungian language is becoming archaic and poetic. I think follow the data is a good adage .
As for Fate and the Fates they serve a multitude of mythopoetic functions. The Fates the Graces the Muses and Grace all convey profound meaning to me and much of western civilization. Life is richer because of the contemplation that have been bestowed on them.
“Groups of three female figures are quite common in Western art, but they can represent very different ideas. In fact, the two most common groups, which are the Fates and the Three Graces, are both associated with life, but the Fates represent destiny and death, while the Graces represent life at its fullest.”
All are great mythic rabbit holes to explore. They enrich our lives.
Fate freewill and chance shall always be debated and explored. There are many mythic traditions that point to them. The soldiers tossing the dice at the foot of Cross. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle. The toss of the iching etc etc.
Amor fati – Nietzsche’s love of fate naturally leads him to confront the reality of suffering in a radical way.
For me I like Doris Day’s song Que Sera, Sera and
Garth Brooks song The Dance …
there is also the song Freewill by Rush a personal favorite from my youth !!
Follow the science through the Grace of your heart !!!
I felt this film and book touched on the themes at play here. I do enjoy
Low humor in Conversations of the Highest Order
My Father always said ,
Fuggem if they can’t take a joke !!!
There’s a comedic commodius vicus of recirculation …
But there’s a pretty little thing waiting for the King down in the Jungle room !!!
How do you think Mother Nature got pregnant in the First place ??? There is only one way !!!
That’s going south of the border and gettiner done !!!
Happy Easter !!!
Free will for me is our inalienable right to freedom of conscious choice.
I believe wholeheartedly in free will. We have the ability to choose freely for better or worse our decisions in life. We have the freedom to make mistakes change our minds , live and learn.
Our free will gives us the ability to answer or not the call to the hero’s Journey and choose where to enter the woods where no one else has traveled. The choice to seek to be a self actualized actuated individuated individual. To seek life liberty freedom the pursuit of happiness. To boldly go where no one has gone before.
The Bible says “choose you this day whom you will serve”.
I say yea to free will . “Simply let your yea be yea and your nay be nay” is an axiom of Western Civilization . Yea and nay , yes and no , are the binaries of logic. Yes said Mary at the Annunciation ! Yes said Molly Bloom !! Yes said JC to the call at Gethsemane , at Woodstock !!! Where shall you enter the garden, enter the woods , enter the Orchard ?
Free will is what makes humanity so mythically majestic to gods and man !
Free will is The choice of the underdog to persevere prevail fight for what is right and true.
I think information and knowledge of our environment and the universe intimately affect and are part of our free will choices. For me informed choices are part of free will and not independent. How many have ignored denied the Call , replaced it with security prestige position power ?
I think the decision to be an individual of mythic proportion an avatar an innovator such as Moses Krishna Arjuna Buddha Jesus Martin Luther MLKjr Gandhi is a conscious choice. Of course it is well known that many archetypical mythical attributes are added to the biography of individuals as time moves on and narratives grow. Free will allows us to choose to rise out of and from the joyful suffering of the world we experience, live in , and attempt to make it a better place.
Through the eight fold path ?
Through the eye of a needle ?
Through the answer of the Call ?
R³March 29, 2021 at 11:14 am in reply to: “The Way of Art and Two-Way Roads” with Mythologist Craig Deininger #5169
It is interesting that Master Tozan used imperial measurement rather than metric or archaic Japanese. Translations do leave artifacts worthy of investigation. The myth poetics of Flax weaves an interesting tale …
R³March 25, 2021 at 8:31 am in reply to: “The Way of Art and Two-Way Roads” with Mythologist Craig Deininger #5148
Great food for thought,
It would take Murfy’s law and an American Indian a indigenous native of the the land to get the job done. Such great symbolism … detaching … raising up … the plumbing from the underworld , throwing it through the window to provide an escape. Very iconic.
Joseph Campbell would be proud an American Indian was Chosen to part the waters !!! Release the waters from below of the deep !!! Actualize exodus from the Institution .
The hospital was a hot bed of Freudian and Jungian complexes. A microcosm of the human mind and its weaknesses.
The Chief experienced quite the departure, initiation, and return !!! From the Institution.
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